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In SoCal we're having an unusually cool fall so far. Today's high was 68f, it's currently 64f at 5:30PM. I don't think I remember temperatures this low happening in early/mid November in the 15 years that I've lived here.
Sounds like an El Niño or La Niña year.
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> this Winter is warm with minimal gas burned so far I feel like I'm going crazy as this is not the first time I've seen / heard this argument. What does winter mean? I thought it was the months from December to February. I don't understand the narrative that we're in a warm winter at all . Winter, just like Game of Thrones, is coming.
In this case all that is meant is the months during which heating is required. For many parts of Europe this will include a substantial portion of fall months and usually extends into spring. It’s just the easiest way to talk about it.
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#113Commodity traders and investors are very networked and really like such immediate usage news. Many firms also count trucks/traffic near sites etc. so it isn't surprising to see people respond to this. However, the causation is unclear to me. European gas stocks are at full capacity as is and this Winter is warm with minimal gas burned so far. A 7% drop is par for course in the last few weeks. An extra piece of bad ne…
> this Winter is warm with minimal gas burned so far I feel like I'm going crazy as this is not the first time I've seen / heard this argument. What does winter mean? I thought it was the months from December to February. I don't understand the narrative that we're in a warm winter at all . Winter, just like Game of Thrones, is coming.
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In this case all that is meant is the months during which heating is required. For many parts of Europe this will include a substantial portion of fall months and usually extends into spring. It’s just the easiest way to talk about it.
It's definitely not the easiest way to talk about it. I've used heating, in Europe, in late spring and in my cabin even in summer. Am I just living in a perpetual winter?
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In this case all that is meant is the months during which heating is required. For many parts of Europe this will include a substantial portion of fall months and usually extends into spring. It’s just the easiest way to talk about it.
It's definitely not the easiest way to talk about it. I've used heating, in Europe, in late spring and in my cabin even in summer. Am I just living in a perpetual winter?
If there's a cold snap in mid May (Eisheilige), you still want your heating turned on, but generally it will fall outside of the heating season.
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It's definitely not the easiest way to talk about it. I've used heating, in Europe, in late spring and in my cabin even in summer. Am I just living in a perpetual winter?
Just read "the cold time of year" when you see "winter" and you'll get past this.
A - Things have gotten to the point where we can't talk about a damn season without personal interpretations of it;
B - This has seeped into Hacker News, a forum I thought was for more diligent folks.
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It's definitely not the easiest way to talk about it. I've used heating, in Europe, in late spring and in my cabin even in summer. Am I just living in a perpetual winter?
Various places have a heating season (for example Heizperiode in Germany) which is a period where you're expected to have your heating turned on to maintain a certain indoor temperature. It could be regulated by the law or specified in a contract if you're renting. Different places have different definitions of it. Sometimes it's fixed, like from October 1 to April 30. Sometimes it uses an average indoor temperature…
We can take every little coordinate point on the earth, its political structure, its energy-reliance structure, the will of its people, and plot what winter means to each and every one of us, but ultimately winter is winter; October is not winter, November is not winter, and a meter is not an inch.
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Just read "the cold time of year" when you see "winter" and you'll get past this.
I'm not trying to 'get past this', I'm trying to express my disbelief at the fact that: A - Things have gotten to the point where we can't talk about a damn season without personal interpretations of it; B - This has seeped into Hacker News, a forum I thought was for more diligent folks.
And with climate change, traditional seasons aren't nearly as useful in discussion as they used to be.
In my area of my country, our autumn used to be the time of big stable highs giving rise to clear days and frosts overnight. Great time of year to go hiking, minimal chance of intense rainfall or snowfall in the high country.
Now the weather in autumn resembles that in spring - predominant north west winds that bring intense rainfall to the west, heavy snowfall on the tops, and hot dry days to the east.
I feel you're still getting hung up on definitions that are becoming more obsolete by the year.
Lastly, from my limited experience of Germany, the most miserable weather tends to come late October - November. It's not technically winter, but it's a frigging cold and miserable time of year.
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#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
Various places have a heating season (for example Heizperiode in Germany) which is a period where you're expected to have your heating turned on to maintain a certain indoor temperature. It could be regulated by the law or specified in a contract if you're renting. Different places have different definitions of it. Sometimes it's fixed, like from October 1 to April 30. Sometimes it uses an average indoor temperature…
I'm not surprised at the fact that different places in the world have different weather patterns and different approaches to heating, lol. I'm surprised at the fact that winter is such a debatable topic and people base it on how they dress, or whether their municipality is feeding them heating agent, or if they turn on their own heating agent. We can take every little coordinate point on the earth, its political stru…
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#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not trying to 'get past this', I'm trying to express my disbelief at the fact that: A - Things have gotten to the point where we can't talk about a damn season without personal interpretations of it; B - This has seeped into Hacker News, a forum I thought was for more diligent folks.
Language is fluid. And with climate change, traditional seasons aren't nearly as useful in discussion as they used to be. In my area of my country, our autumn used to be the time of big stable highs giving rise to clear days and frosts overnight. Great time of year to go hiking, minimal chance of intense rainfall or snowfall in the high country. Now the weather in autumn resembles that in spring - predominant north w…
It's definitely a bit more useful than arbitrary subjective interpretations of said terms based on hyperlocal weather patterns.
> I feel you're still getting hung up on definitions that are becoming more obsolete by the year.
I feel like you're not getting hung up enough on the definition of a definition. This might or might not be true, just how like if I feel that April is cold, it doesn't make it winter.