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FTX faces potential hack, sees mysterious outflows totaling more than $600M

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Re: FTX faces potential hack, sees mysterious outflows totaling more than $600M

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Who (which government agency etc.) would be expected to track their whereabouts in this scenario?

Do the Pinkertons operate worldwide? Or maybe Black Cube.

The Pinkertons are ruling class goons and it's not clear SBF and his clan aren't as well.

Re: FTX faces potential hack, sees mysterious outflows totaling more than $600M

#93

Every time one of these cryptoscams matures I curse my rotten, stupid, brain. If I was smart, I too would be ripping off all of the cryptobros. Instead I dumb and do honest work.

A) few people can make money off of a ponsi scheme

B) The unregulated crooks are making it so crypto either will be outlawed or regulated (e.g. central exchanges regulated), so you won't be able to scam for very much longer

C) it's not just crypto bros, many people made the speculative investment who are relatively uninterested in it, you are mote likely to defraud your standard investor looking to trade stocks with e.g. Robinhood than any major players.

So don't feel bad or think you have missed out. If you want to defraud someone go sell NFTs, those are literally nonsense sold to idiots...

Re: FTX faces potential hack, sees mysterious outflows totaling more than $600M

#94
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Thanks! Wow even better than I recalled To be fair there’s something to that idea. Market returns about 7% on average. Over six years that would be an opportunity cost of 50%. But, as you say there’s got to be some loss for choosing to put one’s money with a con artist I doubt there will be a crypto bailout as it seemingly didn’t get big enough to blow up anything outside itself. It also had an anti public relations…

I've been around the block a few times, and I've had people over the years tell me about an "investment" or a fund, or their brother-in-law who could get me 15% or more on my money. And every time I've been smart enough to say "no thanks." I must admit, I don't have a lot of sympathy for Madoff's victims. Especially the charities! If I donate money to a charity, I'd expect the money to go to help people or to further…

The Renaissance Medallion fund made over 30% per year, so people who had heard of that would be primed to believe that 15% was possible.

Re: FTX faces potential hack, sees mysterious outflows totaling more than $600M

#95

Every time one of these cryptoscams matures I curse my rotten, stupid, brain. If I was smart, I too would be ripping off all of the cryptobros. Instead I dumb and do honest work.

People will be going to jail for this. Do not take the short term view.

Re: FTX faces potential hack, sees mysterious outflows totaling more than $600M

#96
post #84

Cryptocurrencies are speedrunning the history of the financial system and why it is the way it is.

After 10 billion USD goes missing you can bet it won't stay unregulated for long. But yeah it became apparent a while back that some very bad actors, speculators, had become involved in crypto, so I became inactive.

10B didn't go missing, it was stolen and they know stole it and where he put it.

One to two billion is missing and probably stolen.

Re: FTX faces potential hack, sees mysterious outflows totaling more than $600M

#97
All: I know it's a bit hard but if you're going to comment on this, please review your comment to make sure it isn't shallow, lurid, or gloating. Most posts so far in this thread have been below that line. On HN we want thoughtful, substantive, and above all curious comments—where by curious is meant intellectually curious, not gawking.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: FTX faces potential hack, sees mysterious outflows totaling more than $600M

#98

to what extent can my pc/phone be compromised simply by going to a website? how would i know if malicious software is downloaded/active?

My thoughts also... can this be bigger than FTX?

Can iOS/Android apps be updated without 3rd party approval?

Re: FTX faces potential hack, sees mysterious outflows totaling more than $600M

#99

SBF and Caroline (and probably Trabucco) probably already on their way to non-extradition countries and taking what little cash remains with them. They'll end up in prison if they don't.

The problem with countries that don't extradite to the U.S. is that assassinations tend to be woefully easy.

Re: FTX faces potential hack, sees mysterious outflows totaling more than $600M

#100

to what extent can my pc/phone be compromised simply by going to a website? how would i know if malicious software is downloaded/active?

iirc someone on hn said the going rate for zero-days is just $1-2 million. there were at least 3 RCE on chrome just this year: https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/15/google-third-fix-chro...

the math works out for someone to spend it here given the amount of panicky crypto whales trying to get their money out of ftx. (OTOH, the math also suggest that these exchanges should've been hacked long long ago if these cheap zero days exist, so idk)

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