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Tether's Troubles in November 2022

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Re: Tether's Troubles in November 2022

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This will be the true extinction level event for this era of crypto. I now fully expect it to happen on this bear cycle. It will be interesting to watch - potentially the FTX investigation coming off the bankruptcy will set loose enough threads we will learn the truth.

> will be the true extinction level event for this era of crypto

People keep saying this, but it runs counter to the history of gambling. As long as enthusiasts have money, the game will keep going.

Re: Tether's Troubles in November 2022

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m still amused by how much investment still VCs make into this space. If the industry shakes the bad apples out that would be truly great for the entire economy.

The industry IS a bad apple. There are zero legitimate use cases STILL of any crypto related product.

Finance is a legit use case. If you think it's not then by extension you have to write off the legacy financial system as well.

Think about something like private/public pensions, annuities etc. A cogitating being knows that they are getting older and will need money for retirement, but they also should know that there are essentially just 4 ways to make an investment grow without any labor input from the investor: the bond market, the stock market, the real estate market and private lending to companies or individuals.

Now with the possible exception of private lending a citizen can do all the above, and remember they also know that they will need money for retirement. So tell me again why do they need public/private pensions and annuities? And why we allow such actors to operate given they redundacy considering the fact that they are preying on people's fears that they won't be able to make it in the future?

If crypto preys on people's greed then the legacy financial system preys on people's fears. They are 2 equally bad behaviors.

Re: Tether's Troubles in November 2022

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I have a theory of why Tether is able to dodge risk. If they are owned by Bitfinex can they not front-run the Bitfinex order book to guarantee their stops will hit their target? They know the bitfinex order depth for every asset so they can for example buy into bitcoin and then calculate exactly when they must get out. Its possible this could be built into the core layer of their exchange software. That’s how I would…

>If they are owned by Bitfinex can they not front-run the Bitfinex order book to guarantee their stops will hit their target? They know the bitfinex order depth for every asset so they can for example buy into bitcoin and then calculate exactly when they must get out. This makes no sense to me. Can you rephrase/elaborate what you mean by this?

Bitfinex (B) sees orders incoming for BTC or other currency. Then B acquires for $X. Then B fills the order to clients at $X.03

Boom, $0.03 free money. Multiply by scale of their client base.

Re: Tether's Troubles in November 2022

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post #19

> The risk-on assets are 12.86% of the reserves, via simple division. Their equity is 0.36% of assets. If their risk-on assets were impaired by more than about 2.86%, Tether must have (by their own numbers) needed recapitalization. It is not credible that they suffered no serious impairment. Bitcoin, the blue chip cryptocurrency, is down by more than 10%. > I challenge anyone to find a portfolio construction for digi…

Yes tether is an obvious lie, and it’s now just a question of when, not if, they collapse.

Re: Tether's Troubles in November 2022

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post #23
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>If they are owned by Bitfinex can they not front-run the Bitfinex order book to guarantee their stops will hit their target? They know the bitfinex order depth for every asset so they can for example buy into bitcoin and then calculate exactly when they must get out. This makes no sense to me. Can you rephrase/elaborate what you mean by this?

Bitfinex (B) sees orders incoming for BTC or other currency. Then B acquires for $X. Then B fills the order to clients at $X.03 Boom, $0.03 free money. Multiply by scale of their client base.

1. This only applies to market orders. 2. Bitfinex is not the only exchange where people can trade BTC or other crypto. 3. How does B acquire BTC for $X at scale?

Re: Tether's Troubles in November 2022

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post #23
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>If they are owned by Bitfinex can they not front-run the Bitfinex order book to guarantee their stops will hit their target? They know the bitfinex order depth for every asset so they can for example buy into bitcoin and then calculate exactly when they must get out. This makes no sense to me. Can you rephrase/elaborate what you mean by this?

Bitfinex (B) sees orders incoming for BTC or other currency. Then B acquires for $X. Then B fills the order to clients at $X.03 Boom, $0.03 free money. Multiply by scale of their client base.

Even more profitable is printing their own currency with nothing backing it, then lying about having it fully backed to set the value at or just below $1.

Each USDT printed and sold to a sucker = $1 USD free money.

Re: Tether's Troubles in November 2022

#27

This will be the true extinction level event for this era of crypto. I now fully expect it to happen on this bear cycle. It will be interesting to watch - potentially the FTX investigation coming off the bankruptcy will set loose enough threads we will learn the truth.

> will be the true extinction level event for this era of crypto People keep saying this, but it runs counter to the history of gambling. As long as enthusiasts have money, the game will keep going.

Enthusiasts staying long isn’t enough to keep things going, mining is a raging beast that must be satisfied or people start doing double spend attacks for the lulz.

Re: Tether's Troubles in November 2022

#28

I just hope that this is the beginning of the end for the whole crypto space. Good riddance. This fraud galore has no legal basis for existing.

Pretty sure that requiring all new products to have a "legal basis" before invention would be a very bad idea.

Re: Tether's Troubles in November 2022

#29

This will be the true extinction level event for this era of crypto. I now fully expect it to happen on this bear cycle. It will be interesting to watch - potentially the FTX investigation coming off the bankruptcy will set loose enough threads we will learn the truth.

> will be the true extinction level event for this era of crypto People keep saying this, but it runs counter to the history of gambling. As long as enthusiasts have money, the game will keep going.

As long as there are enthusiasts. When the music stops, everyone is rushing for the exits at the same time.

The music stopped sometime last year, now we’re in the end game.

Re: Tether's Troubles in November 2022

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The industry IS a bad apple. There are zero legitimate use cases STILL of any crypto related product.

Might even be an existential risk. One possible solution to the Fermi Paradox is that they invented crypto and it wrecked them.

The thing it's trendy to hate on is probably just like other things it's been trendy to hate on, and claiming otherwise looks pretty silly. Unless flavored vapes are also a potential filter event, that is.
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