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An unconfirmed tweet about Freeport LNG is upending gas markets

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Re: An unconfirmed tweet about Freeport LNG is upending gas markets

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From what I have heard the fact that European gas storage is full is nice but not really all that meaningful. The gas storage is only large enough to last a week or something in that magnitude.

The German storage facilities hold gas for two months of typical January consumption rates.

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Re: An unconfirmed tweet about Freeport LNG is upending gas markets

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Commodity traders and investors are very networked and really like such immediate usage news. Many firms also count trucks/traffic near sites etc. so it isn't surprising to see people respond to this. However, the causation is unclear to me. European gas stocks are at full capacity as is and this Winter is warm with minimal gas burned so far. A 7% drop is par for course in the last few weeks. An extra piece of bad ne…

From what I have heard the fact that European gas storage is full is nice but not really all that meaningful. The gas storage is only large enough to last a week or something in that magnitude.

The EU gas storage is actually around 2 months.

Full capacity is ~1000TWh[0], while winter monthly consumption is around 450 TWh[1].

In other words, way more than a week, and yes, the storage does make a meaningful difference.

[0]: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1294025/quarterly-gas-in...

[1]: https://energy.ec.europa.eu/system/files/2022-04/Quarterly%2...

Re: An unconfirmed tweet about Freeport LNG is upending gas markets

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Why is anyone still believing this stuff? How is anything on Twitter taken seriously anymore??

> How is anything on Twitter taken seriously anymore??

it was ever taken seriously?

Re: An unconfirmed tweet about Freeport LNG is upending gas markets

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Isn't it true that the price for gas in Europe is very inelastic at the moment (meaning they will pay pretty much any price to get it) and so any shortage of it will cause dramatic price increase? Also, Europe can't easily switch to another source of gas because they have maxed out everything they could. This is basically the reason why OPEC restricts oil production, it is just here the same is happening unintentiona…

Not sure if your post is trying to contradict the post you are replying to, which made the very good point that what plunged are US gas futures. I assume that yes, this would be very bad news for European gas consumers.

And electricity consumers, since prices usually trend gas prices.

And anyone buys exports manufactured in Europe...

Re: An unconfirmed tweet about Freeport LNG is upending gas markets

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Why is anyone still believing this stuff? How is anything on Twitter taken seriously anymore??

> How is anything on Twitter taken seriously anymore?? it was ever taken seriously?

Not sure what country you're in, but here in the UK, a non-zero amount of our news coverage is built on the twitter house of cards. And if you're in the US, it seems a significant part of your politics is affected by twitter too.

Re: An unconfirmed tweet about Freeport LNG is upending gas markets

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Commodity traders and investors are very networked and really like such immediate usage news. Many firms also count trucks/traffic near sites etc. so it isn't surprising to see people respond to this. However, the causation is unclear to me. European gas stocks are at full capacity as is and this Winter is warm with minimal gas burned so far. A 7% drop is par for course in the last few weeks. An extra piece of bad ne…

> this Winter is warm with minimal gas burned so far

I feel like I'm going crazy as this is not the first time I've seen / heard this argument. What does winter mean? I thought it was the months from December to February. I don't understand the narrative that we're in a warm winter at all. Winter, just like Game of Thrones, is coming.

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A more fun one: https://www.proactiveinvestors.co.uk/companies/news/998165/e...

not to ruin a funny moment, but

> Eli Lilly is down 5% because the market for their most profitable drug, a $125k/yr mAb IL-17 inhibitor, fell 5%. This is why Novartis, their major competitor with Cosentyx, is also down the same amount

https://twitter.com/quantian1/status/1591149510168039426

which sounds a lot more believable, imo

Re: An unconfirmed tweet about Freeport LNG is upending gas markets

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Why is anyone still believing this stuff? How is anything on Twitter taken seriously anymore??

Funny that you say this, taking OP at face value that the account was verified (it was not).

You’re doing the same thing

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