Are there big seaweed / algae boards funding test kitchens to try to mainstream products like Norway did for salmon sushi?
Is algae the new kale?
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Eating seaweed and bugs sounds a lot better than starving to death? Especially since in both cases they appear to be just intermediate sources of nutrients that will get turned into innocuous food-a-likes like burgers and bacon. Sure, the cynical take is no one would willing eat them straight up (though obviously nori is around sushi, hijiki is in soup etc.) but I am not too put off by the idea...
False dichotomy. Just like green anything. Kill the planet or go back to pre-industrial living standards. How about no. Why not use our talent and resources to find ways to increase the standards of living while also improving their affordability and lessening their impact on the environment.
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B12 absorption is finicky, and meats contain rather small amounts. Injections and sublinguals are actually better at increasing levels than meat.
Organ meats such as beef liver provide a significant amount of B12. If you are just eating muscle meat, then you will have to eat a lot.
Excess liver consumption is a risk factor for vitamin A toxicity though, and the B12 amount varies wildly. Red meat consumption also increases cancer risk. It’s safer to take supplements from a reputable source.
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What breeds did you have?
First time was a Beefalo crossed on a Jersey cow. Second time was a White-faced Hereford crossed on the same cow.
Not come across Beefalo, maybe not something we have over here.
Hereford are good but they're a proper "good old-fashioned roast beef Sunday dinner" breed.
We mostly had Charolais crosses, and Luing cattle which you don't really see outside Scotland. They're smallish but the meat is amazing.
Re: Is algae the new kale?
#215I was looking into algea/spirulina for B12, but found some sources indicating it is not a bioavailable form of B12, and also prevents real B12 from being absorbed. I'd be interested to know any counter research to this. > almost all algae revealed vitamin B12 analogues instead of the real thing. Analogues are not only ineffective, but also potentially dangerous. Most researchers have consequently dismissed algae as a…
Yep. People need meat.
Guess what? Farm animals need B12 supplements.
So why not just take B12 supplements ourselves? Cut out the middleman and as a bonus lower stress on our biosphere and reduce our carbon footprint.
Re: Is algae the new kale?
#216I was looking into algea/spirulina for B12, but found some sources indicating it is not a bioavailable form of B12, and also prevents real B12 from being absorbed. I'd be interested to know any counter research to this. > almost all algae revealed vitamin B12 analogues instead of the real thing. Analogues are not only ineffective, but also potentially dangerous. Most researchers have consequently dismissed algae as a…
Why not just take B12 produced with microbes (= most supplements)? Those are considered vegan. Trying to get B12 from algae sounds unnecessarily complicated, considering our B12 has in all of our history been of microbial origin.
But I also wouldn’t shun algae just because they occupy some B12 transporters. There’s all kinds of metabolic tradeoffs with every kind of food, and we are designed to tolerate that. Most metabolic pathways are 4-5x redundant IIRC.
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#217I've read that one of the reasons that thyroid cancer is so prevalent in east Asia is due to seaweed consumption. Seaweed has 10,000x times the iodine of other food products, and a percentage of that iodine is potentially radioactive. I don't have a source so take this with a grain of (uniodized) salt.
Edit: since, I'm getting downvoted, here's a study:
Re: Is algae the new kale?
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#219This reminds me when I was in kindergarten, the most popular diet/health supplement are some green/blue tablets which are claimed to be made of some sea plants or algae called Spirulina and with multiple benefits.
I think Amway is still selling those tablets in some countries now.
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Yep. People need meat.
For B12? You do know that animals don’t produce B12, but microorganisms (that can be found in soil and untreated water) and that farmed animals eat B12 supplemented food? So no, people don’t need meat. Not for B12, or for proteins or for iron or for anything else. Do people want to eat meat? That’s a different story.
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