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Or maybe both of those things are shitty and it isn’t mutually exclusive. Sometimes the binary thinking here is really special.
I'll take the 30 million dead over a relatively small number of dogs killed as the greater evil thanks.
At least Laika server for a noble cause. What I think is terrible is the fact that Soviet Army tied up bombs on dogs and let the run after enemy tanks on the WWII. Humans sometimes acts disgustingly.
>one meal and only a seven-day oxygen supply It sounds rather similar to how the Russians treat their mobilised soldiers to this day.
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Things you forgot: - the murder of millions of innocent people - the worst nuclear accident on the planet Russia was bad then and continues today. Nothing needed other than history to make that case.
The mythical "they murdered A GAZILLION PEOPLE". Yeah, totally made up numbers made by anti-soviet historians that inflated numbers and considered natural causes as "murder". You can say what you want about the Soviet Union, but thinking that they ORDERED the killing of millions is complete derangement. Were there economic problems and famines? Yes, of course, all countries with a rural economy are exposed to famines…
Edit: For anyone wondering what this poster is about, take a look at their brief comment history and all will be cleared up.
> Soviet physicians chose Laika to die, but they were not entirely heartless. This tone is really harsh, animals dying to push science forward is still common today and acting like they were "heartless" for it is disingenuous. Laika got to be remembered, which his already much more than can be said of most test subjects.
There's a song from Mecano. Two lines always hit me. I will try to translate it. And while Earth was trowing a giant party where happiness mixes tears in the champagne Laika just was looking out the window What could be that giant colored ball? And why do I keep spinning it around?
If we pay attention to the legend then we'll have to accept that in Earth is one less dog and in heavens one more star
> Soviet physicians chose Laika to die, but they were not entirely heartless. This tone is really harsh, animals dying to push science forward is still common today and acting like they were "heartless" for it is disingenuous. Laika got to be remembered, which his already much more than can be said of most test subjects.
I've got to agree with you here. Every day, animals around the world are given cancer, AIDs, heart attacks, and all manner of diseases in the name of advancing science. As many as 12 million animals are dissected or vivisected in US schools alone annually. Laika was an important stepping stone towards humans in space. It's sad a dog died, but some people are a bit melodramatic.
This is appalling but at least, as others commented, Laika got to be celebrated. For an example of real heartless exploitation of animals, see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit_of_despair . This psycho is still held in high esteem. Not only that, many such experiments continue to be made for research.
What was it about the 20th century that produced such heartless people? Lead exposure? I understand that the 20th century is far from an aberration in terms of human cruelty, but there is an element of sadism that feels different than other centuries. For instance, read the first sentence from Harlow's Wikipedia page: > Harry Frederick Harlow (October 31, 1905 – December 6, 1981) was an American psychologist best kno…
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What was it about the 20th century that produced such heartless people? Lead exposure? I understand that the 20th century is far from an aberration in terms of human cruelty, but there is an element of sadism that feels different than other centuries. For instance, read the first sentence from Harlow's Wikipedia page: > Harry Frederick Harlow (October 31, 1905 – December 6, 1981) was an American psychologist best kno…
> Did we really need to torture these creatures for decades to understand the importance of care giving? Yes, we did. Look at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hospitalism people didn't even understand how much humans need care, never mind animals. The people placing these babies into care did so with the best intentions, but insufficient knowledge. Your knowledge comes from these experiments.