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Is algae the new kale?

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Re: Is algae the new kale?

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I was looking into algea/spirulina for B12, but found some sources indicating it is not a bioavailable form of B12, and also prevents real B12 from being absorbed.

I'd be interested to know any counter research to this.

> almost all algae revealed vitamin B12 analogues instead of the real thing. Analogues are not only ineffective, but also potentially dangerous. Most researchers have consequently dismissed algae as a B12 source and recommend natural B12 supplements as a safe alternative

> In order to properly understand the discussion about the B12 content of algae, it is important to first take a closer look at analogues. Also known as pseudo B12, analogues are molecules which are so chemically similar to real B12 that they bond to the same transport molecule. In contrast, however, they have no vitamin effect on the body whatsoever. This is detrimental to health, as only real B12 that is bound to this specific transport molecule can be used by the body.

https://www.b12-vitamin.com/algae/

Re: Is algae the new kale?

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Corn-fed beef is bland and greasy. Next you'll be telling me that Aberdeen-Angus beef is good...

It's a matter of taste. I find much grass-fed beef to be dry and tough. Speaking as someone who has actually raised grass-fed beef.

What breeds did you have?

Re: Is algae the new kale?

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I love the seaweed that you sometimes get in restaurants (rarely where I live, unfortunately). But the article makes me a bit skeptical, it doesn't mention any downsides at all, it sounds more like a marketing piece than a balanced assessment. I don't even know what questions I'd have to ask, off the top of my head I'd like to know what the risks regarding eg mercury and microplastics contamination are. Also, would w…

Origin of supply seems fairly important to keep track of: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-21732-z > "Distribution of metals and metalloids in dried seaweeds and health risk to population in southeastern China (2018) Most sources report levels low enough to not cause health risks, but eating large quantities ( > 5g day ) is probably not the best idea, and it should be tested for lead, mercury and cadmium (i…

is 5g a large quantity? I must be missing significant context.

Re: Is algae the new kale?

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I love all these whacky avenues people take when eating just plants is a very low foot print option available to almost everyone. We don’t need to eat crickets, we don’t need to eat algae, we don’t need bioreactors for growing meat. I think the main reason we don’t hear more about just how goddamn efficient a bowl of lentils and rice is, or oatmeal, is because it’s not sexy. You just can’t make a start up on beans an…

That's great if you live in a part of the world where you can grow lentils and rice.

Even down south here at 57°N it's still more ecologically sound to eat meat and potatoes, because potatoes grow pretty well and tough heathery grasses and sedges grow pretty well, and we can't eat those but sheep can.

Re: Is algae the new kale?

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> I think the main reason we don’t hear more about just how goddamn efficient a bowl of lentils and rice is, or oatmeal, is because it’s not sexy. No, we don't hear about it more because it's not healthful. If it were, the human digestive system would be like that of cattle, but it's not. You can feed everyone carby, fibrous meals, but that's not optimal and not even necessarily better for the environment. The reason…

Sorry, but lentils are pretty much the closest thing to a single food that meets all of a human's nutritional needs in existence. If you pair lentils with a small amount of spinach and eggs that gets you there. Your comments about what "people" were designed to eat also sounds pretty ignorant, since we're not genetically homogenous for starters. Most humans of European descent have evolved for seasonal carbohydrate c…

And that's great, but how far do the lentils travel to get to your kitchen?

Re: Is algae the new kale?

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I recently bought some red dulse from a seaweed farm on the Oregon coast (Oregon Seaweed in Garibaldi, Oregon). Bought it right from the farm. The guy who was growing it said it makes a great bacon substitute. I tried frying it up and while it didn't taste much like bacon to me (maybe I needed some liquid smoke?) it was an umami bomb. I had it in a sandwich and it was actually pretty good.

I enjoy the dulse leaf product from these guys https://www.amdulse.com/products

Not as a substitute for something else, but as a snack on its own, for which there is no substitute. Unfortunately prices have nearly doubled in a little over a year.

Re: Is algae the new kale?

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There is token research that creatine supplements are especially beneficial for vegans, and creatine isn't the only thing mostly found in animal-based foods. Given nutritional sciences has a history of being a rollercoaster ride, maybe it isn't the best idea to make wild claims which don't mirror how the world behaves at large. Water and land usage is also A: grossly overstated (you can't grow anything except grass o…

>A: grossly overstated (you can't grow anything except grass on most land) The overwhelming majority of soy grown globally is fed to livestock. That's definitely does not fall under your category of "can't grow anything except grass on most land". "More than three-quarters (77%) of global soy is fed to livestock for meat and dairy production. Most of the rest is used for biofuels, industry or vegetable oils. Just 7%…

That's because soy isn't really suitable for human consumption, and about 80% of the soy plants that you grow consist of stuff that humans can't eat.

How do you plan on solving the problem of eating the bits of soy plants that humans can't eat?

Re: Is algae the new kale?

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We already eat various forms of algae. Some are quite nutritious, some give us tummy troubles, some at excellent sinks for CO2. I'm very curious if we could mass manufacture something like algae and then pyrolize it to get fuel and solid carbon to sequester. If we find some good ideas for kelp, there's whole coastlines whose kelp forests have been decimated. We could start propagating and sustainably harvesting it an…

I recently bought an Algae Powered CO2 scrubber. No idea how effective it is, I wonder what the easiest way to measure is?

I looked into this for a few minutes when a huge algae CO2 scrubber in am airport was discussed a few weeks back. The short is that it does close to nothing: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33173230

It's too bad because one of my weird dreams would be to have a vat of genetically modified algae in my house that removes CO2 and turns into some kind of Soylent.

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