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Laika, the space dog, and her one-way trip into orbit (2018)

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Re: Laika, the space dog, and her one-way trip into orbit (2018)

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At least Laika server for a noble cause. What I think is terrible is the fact that Soviet Army tied up bombs on dogs and let the run after enemy tanks on the WWII. Humans sometimes acts disgustingly.

Most of us consider defeating Hitler's genocidal Nazi regime a noble cause.

I forgot Stalin was such a nice guy too

Re: Laika, the space dog, and her one-way trip into orbit (2018)

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You do. How would you otherwise demonize a Country that reached peak industrialization in a couple decades starting from a rural, semi-feudal society? - That established the 8 hour work day in 1917, - legalized abortion in 1920, - erradicated illiteracy and achieved a literacy rate of 75% starting from 25%, - Was the first country to build satellites and men to space? - Provided a decent standard of living to all the…

Millions starved to death in collectivization, even more millions displaced from their homes and sent to gulags. Intelligentsia eradicated as a class. The biggest and potentially richest country in the world collapsed due to planned economy. And that’s just my layman knowledge typing on a phone, I’m sure many historians can decimate your comment even harder.

The economy arguments always annoyed me about communism. No country would have an easy time avoiding economic collapse with a US and all her allies global embargo going on for decades. Plus we probably would not have won WWII so quickly if we had not resorted to using a planned economy to turn the nation from an economically depressed state still in the great depression into a global superpower.

Re: Laika, the space dog, and her one-way trip into orbit (2018)

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post #102

Not completely related, but here a mockumentary movie about Russians visiting Moon in ~1910-1920s (I guess) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljKPnQNp_kA It is beautiful even if you choose any random moment in the middle.

Further topic tangent, if you're into Sci-Fi shorts, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8ePy1a4Uxo

Re: Laika, the space dog, and her one-way trip into orbit (2018)

#105

At least Laika server for a noble cause. What I think is terrible is the fact that Soviet Army tied up bombs on dogs and let the run after enemy tanks on the WWII. Humans sometimes acts disgustingly.

The German death machine grinds down circa 30 million Soviet people, majority of them civilians, the hot take is being mad the red army for tank dogs. Sometimes the comments here are really special in their lack of context.

Yeah, pretty sure both sides did those things to people, too...

Re: Laika, the space dog, and her one-way trip into orbit (2018)

#106
post #19

If you like happy endings, also check Belka and Strelka [1]. Not only did they safely travel to space and back, Strelka later gave birth to 6 pups, and one of them went on to live in the JFK White House. [1] https://www.amusingplanet.com/2021/12/belka-and-strelka-sovi...

I have seen Belka and Strelka. They are stuffed and on display in the Cosmonautics museum in Moscow.

https://flickr.com/photos/incanus/10332309885/in/album-72157...

Re: Laika, the space dog, and her one-way trip into orbit (2018)

#107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Akino Arai also had a haunting song about the Sputnik 2 mission as a metaphor for a breakup. Translation: With enough air and water for seven days And someone's uncompromising wishes The laika dog on Sputnik Doors which will never again open now close To think that I must go on living In some distant place unfamiliar to you That we can never feel the same things

In the Czech Republic, they have an oldie 50s style rock tune based on "Rock Around the Clock", with lyrics mentioning the Laika. Sovětští mužici Those Soviet chaps vypustili družici Let out a satellite Lajku do ní nacpali They stuffed Laika into it a nažrat jí nedali. Not giving her anything to eat Na kytaru trsaj rock'n'roll. Strum rock'n'roll on your guitar Lajka letí k Měsíci Lajka's flying to the Moon hlady žere…

Here is "Laika Laika" (1985) from Finnish rock musician Jussi Hakulinen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpwfDTPX2Ek

Re: Laika, the space dog, and her one-way trip into orbit (2018)

#108
post #5

Laika is memorialized in the form of a statue and plaque at Star City, the Russian Cosmonaut training facility. https://dynamic-media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-o/08/b... The Monument to the Conquerors of Space in Moscow, constructed in 1964, also includes Laika! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monument_to_the_Conquerors_of_...

Another great place to visit honoring her is the Soviet space dog portrait gallery in the Museum of Jurassic Technology near Los Angeles

Very unusual museum, highly recommend to visit. They even serve tea from Samovar on the top floor.

Re: Laika, the space dog, and her one-way trip into orbit (2018)

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post #58

This is appalling but at least, as others commented, Laika got to be celebrated. For an example of real heartless exploitation of animals, see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit_of_despair . This psycho is still held in high esteem. Not only that, many such experiments continue to be made for research.

What was it about the 20th century that produced such heartless people? Lead exposure? I understand that the 20th century is far from an aberration in terms of human cruelty, but there is an element of sadism that feels different than other centuries. For instance, read the first sentence from Harlow's Wikipedia page: > Harry Frederick Harlow (October 31, 1905 – December 6, 1981) was an American psychologist best kno…

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Re: Laika, the space dog, and her one-way trip into orbit (2018)

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post #58

This is appalling but at least, as others commented, Laika got to be celebrated. For an example of real heartless exploitation of animals, see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit_of_despair . This psycho is still held in high esteem. Not only that, many such experiments continue to be made for research.

What was it about the 20th century that produced such heartless people? Lead exposure? I understand that the 20th century is far from an aberration in terms of human cruelty, but there is an element of sadism that feels different than other centuries. For instance, read the first sentence from Harlow's Wikipedia page: > Harry Frederick Harlow (October 31, 1905 – December 6, 1981) was an American psychologist best kno…

> Did we really need to torture these creatures for decades to understand the importance of care giving?

Yes, we did. Look at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hospitalism people didn't even understand how much humans need care, never mind animals. The people placing these babies into care did so with the best intentions, but insufficient knowledge.

Your knowledge comes from these experiments.

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