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Re: Microsoft decides to automatically update Internet Explorer for everyone

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

IE8 is the max for XP so until XP goes away it will be the new IE6, which is at 1% in the US. So, yes IE8 will have another decade.

Is IE8 really that bad with regards to standards ? That's an honest question.

Yes. That's an honest answer.

Re: Microsoft decides to automatically update Internet Explorer for everyone

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I'm not a fan, and I don't understand the gushing. As developers, I suppose folks are glad to reduce their support matrix?

But as users, creators of highly customized workstations and rabid fans of particular development environments, doesn't it bother anybody but me, that the browser choice has been hijacked?

Sure, its just stupid Windows users, they don't care. Is that it?

Every IE UI is different, and they seem to be spiralling down is usability. I'm particular about optimizing my own time and changing UI to suit Microsoft's agenda is definitely going to piss me off.

Re: Microsoft decides to automatically update Internet Explorer for everyone

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IE8 is the max for XP so until XP goes away it will be the new IE6, which is at 1% in the US. So, yes IE8 will have another decade.

Is IE8 really that bad with regards to standards ? That's an honest question.

In 5 years it will be compared to the other browsers, just like the others are much further ahead of IE6 now. IE6 used to be a good browser, too, when it launched.

Re: Microsoft decides to automatically update Internet Explorer for everyone

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IE8 is the max for XP so until XP goes away it will be the new IE6, which is at 1% in the US. So, yes IE8 will have another decade.

Is IE8 really that bad with regards to standards ? That's an honest question.

It's not great. A large amount of the nice fancy stuff that makes designing a website easier and more efficient is not available.

But it is a huge step up from IE6 so if a large chunk of those people suddenly find themselves at IE8 then the world will be better for it.

I wish MS would go back and try to update the IE8 render engine so that it can use some of the newer standards of IE9 or even IE10.

Re: Microsoft decides to automatically update Internet Explorer for everyone

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I'm not a fan, and I don't understand the gushing. As developers, I suppose folks are glad to reduce their support matrix? But as users, creators of highly customized workstations and rabid fans of particular development environments, doesn't it bother anybody but me, that the browser choice has been hijacked? Sure, its just stupid Windows users, they don't care. Is that it? Every IE UI is different, and they seem to…

You can opt out of it, but it will be enabled by default. I'm sure it's not meant to target technical users, but simply those who do not know any better.

Old browser versions have been a detriment to web development for years. This is definitely a step in the right direction.

Re: Microsoft decides to automatically update Internet Explorer for everyone

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And here I thought that all non-updated IE versions were installed in environments where Sysadmins blocked the updates (and will in the future). It would be interesting to see a number of how many installations this change could really target. Like, how many IE 6 to 8 are actually in the wild. Can't be that much, imho.

>> Sysadmins blocked the updates

There's something about this that really bothers me, maybe someone can better clarify.

Why are admins enforcing a policy that leaves the company target to just about every possible security hole that has been fixed in the past 20 years?

Is there a valid reason for this that I'm unaware of?

Re: Microsoft decides to automatically update Internet Explorer for everyone

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The article points out that MS will still provide blocking tools for companies. Corporations are the major source of IE6 browsers and I'm not sure this will have any impact on them. The best we can hope for is that high consumer adoption rates will force many more sites to drop IE6 support which might spur companies to finally test and upgrade.

Furthermore, apparently "future versions of IE will provide an option in the product for consumers to opt out of automatic upgrading". Source: http://windowsteamblog.com/ie/b/ie/archive/2011/12/15/ie-to-...

If Redmond insist to have this option, please make it super hard for users to do it :D

Re: Microsoft decides to automatically update Internet Explorer for everyone

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I'm not a fan, and I don't understand the gushing. As developers, I suppose folks are glad to reduce their support matrix? But as users, creators of highly customized workstations and rabid fans of particular development environments, doesn't it bother anybody but me, that the browser choice has been hijacked? Sure, its just stupid Windows users, they don't care. Is that it? Every IE UI is different, and they seem to…

Sure, its just stupid Windows users, they don't care. Is that it?

Chrome follows the same model, which is what I use, and I prefer it. So, I think it's a good idea, and not because Windows users are "stupid."

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