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Laika, the space dog, and her one-way trip into orbit (2018)

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Re: Laika, the space dog, and her one-way trip into orbit (2018)

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> Soviet physicians chose Laika to die, but they were not entirely heartless. This tone is really harsh, animals dying to push science forward is still common today and acting like they were "heartless" for it is disingenuous. Laika got to be remembered, which his already much more than can be said of most test subjects.

Is it that harsh? The line ends with they were not entirely heartless.

Re: Laika, the space dog, and her one-way trip into orbit (2018)

#42
post #26

Anti-Soviet propaganda is reaching levels that I thought were not possible.

I also found the timing of the post a bit odd. Given the recent events I would think twice before publishing or linking to anything that could be interpreted as propaganda in either direction. I am writing this as a 100% pro-Ukraine guy.

Re: Laika, the space dog, and her one-way trip into orbit (2018)

#44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've got to agree with you here. Every day, animals around the world are given cancer, AIDs, heart attacks, and all manner of diseases in the name of advancing science. As many as 12 million animals are dissected or vivisected in US schools alone annually. Laika was an important stepping stone towards humans in space. It's sad a dog died, but some people are a bit melodramatic.

Did the US sacrifice any animals before they sent a human to space?

Yes, mostly mice and primates.

https://history.nasa.gov/animals.html is a quick summary.

Re: Laika, the space dog, and her one-way trip into orbit (2018)

#46

At least Laika server for a noble cause. What I think is terrible is the fact that Soviet Army tied up bombs on dogs and let the run after enemy tanks on the WWII. Humans sometimes acts disgustingly.

The German death machine grinds down circa 30 million Soviet people, majority of them civilians, the hot take is being mad the red army for tank dogs. Sometimes the comments here are really special in their lack of context.

Re: Laika, the space dog, and her one-way trip into orbit (2018)

#47
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Things you forgot: - the murder of millions of innocent people - the worst nuclear accident on the planet Russia was bad then and continues today. Nothing needed other than history to make that case.

The mythical "they murdered A GAZILLION PEOPLE". Yeah, totally made up numbers made by anti-soviet historians that inflated numbers and considered natural causes as "murder". You can say what you want about the Soviet Union, but thinking that they ORDERED the killing of millions is complete derangement. Were there economic problems and famines? Yes, of course, all countries with a rural economy are exposed to famines…

> The mythical "they murdered A GAZILLION PEOPLE". Yeah, totally made up numbers made by anti-soviet historians that inflated numbers and considered natural causes as "murder".

Tankie with his "made up numbers" again. What next are you going to say? Holocaust is made up to mud the name of the glorious Reich that lifted Germany out of poverty?

Re: Laika, the space dog, and her one-way trip into orbit (2018)

#48
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Things you forgot: - the murder of millions of innocent people - the worst nuclear accident on the planet Russia was bad then and continues today. Nothing needed other than history to make that case.

The mythical "they murdered A GAZILLION PEOPLE". Yeah, totally made up numbers made by anti-soviet historians that inflated numbers and considered natural causes as "murder". You can say what you want about the Soviet Union, but thinking that they ORDERED the killing of millions is complete derangement. Were there economic problems and famines? Yes, of course, all countries with a rural economy are exposed to famines…

Bringing up the atrocities committed by others as a defence of Russia is an interesting angle. You know that more than one country can do bad?

The killing of millions is hard to dispute. Take just one incident, the Holomodor. That engineered catastrophe killed millions and Russia now appears to be trying to wipe out Ukraine again.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

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