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FTX to file for U.S. bankruptcy, CEO resigns

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Re: FTX to file for U.S. bankruptcy, CEO resigns

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Too bad Jonah Hill will be too old once the movie comes out about this whole saga. He would have aced it as SBF.

What about this story seems cinematic to you? This is a Ponzi scheme participant who didn't even deny being a Ponzi scheme participant in interviews.

Sequoia already deleted the fluff piece they put out about SBF so they’re clearly embarrassed / afraid of legal fall out. And sequoia being embarrassed doesn’t seem interesting to you? And this is just one of the VCs putting crazy money into a scam. This plus the Bahamas coed dorm and the political ties is already enough for a 2 season Netflix series.

Re: FTX to file for U.S. bankruptcy, CEO resigns

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Where were the adults in any of this and why would people throw billions of dollars at unqualified children?

Like Elizabeth Holmes, they are kids of the elite who are well connected and supported at high levels. Further, SBF is one of the biggest political donors and there may be corruption in the SEC. The general counsel of FTX US had served as lead counsel to Chairman Gensler at the CFTC. And then there's this from a congressman yesterday, "@GaryGensler runs to the media while reports to my office allege he was helping SB…

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Re: FTX to file for U.S. bankruptcy, CEO resigns

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I am still not convinced that he did not steal the missing FTX client funds. So at this point it is not clear to me how much he lost or gained from this. I do hope the DOJ conduct a full investigation and trace where all the money went.

I assume all those political donations bought something :)

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Re: FTX to file for U.S. bankruptcy, CEO resigns

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about this story seems cinematic to you? This is a Ponzi scheme participant who didn't even deny being a Ponzi scheme participant in interviews.

Sequoia already deleted the fluff piece they put out about SBF so they’re clearly embarrassed / afraid of legal fall out. And sequoia being embarrassed doesn’t seem interesting to you? And this is just one of the VCs putting crazy money into a scam. This plus the Bahamas coed dorm and the political ties is already enough for a 2 season Netflix series.

No, in fact, I do not think Sequoia disavowing an investment is especially cinematic.

Re: FTX to file for U.S. bankruptcy, CEO resigns

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Was this another CEO "taking all responsibility" without any actual responsiblity/penalties? Not counting resigning.

He already lost his whole net worth overnight ($16B) and will live in hiding with serious death threats for the rest of his life. This is no ordinary CEO switcheroo where the he walks away with a slap on the wrist and a golden handshake.

Pretty likely that he has money on the side or some sort of assets that are worth a fair amount. Likely not Billions, but certainly in the Millions.

Hopefully the US Gov goes after him and forces him to pay it back to creditors/customers, similar to Trevor Milton/Nikola

Re: FTX to file for U.S. bankruptcy, CEO resigns

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So for "normal" financial institutions (eg banks, mutual funds, brokerages) you are legally required to shield custodian assets. They rea typically held in trust. Due to various scandals there's a lot of regulation. There's even government protection (to a point) for individual customers (eg FDIC insurance for bank depositors).

All of this is necessary to stop situations like FTX/Alameda. A bank can't take your money and bet it on blackjack but there seems to be no such protection for these crypto exchanges. All of this is necessary to maintain confidence in the financial system (yet another reason to roll one's eyes at libertarians).

I mention this because it's just another case of crypto lacking protections the non-crypto financial system has and ignoring lessons learned over the last 5000 years of finance.

I saw a comment on HN yesterday where someone in the Navy said that when they get a new CO it'll be one of two types: the first will work out how things work and then incrementally improve things. The second will immediately reshape everything in their image without figuring out why things are the way they are.

I see that trend in management too. But it seems to be a problem with the entire crypto space. Otherwise smart people completely ignorance of the financial systeem just reshaping crypto with no regard for history.

As for SBF, this is a fraud on a massive scale, like Madoff scale. I really wonder what will happen here because what should probably happen is he'd spend the rest of his life in prison.

Re: FTX to file for U.S. bankruptcy, CEO resigns

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

He already lost his whole net worth overnight ($16B) and will live in hiding with serious death threats for the rest of his life. This is no ordinary CEO switcheroo where the he walks away with a slap on the wrist and a golden handshake.

I am still not convinced that he did not steal the missing FTX client funds. So at this point it is not clear to me how much he lost or gained from this. I do hope the DOJ conduct a full investigation and trace where all the money went.

Where there is fraud there is embezzlement

Re: FTX to file for U.S. bankruptcy, CEO resigns

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He already lost his whole net worth overnight ($16B) and will live in hiding with serious death threats for the rest of his life. This is no ordinary CEO switcheroo where the he walks away with a slap on the wrist and a golden handshake.

I am still not convinced that he did not steal the missing FTX client funds. So at this point it is not clear to me how much he lost or gained from this. I do hope the DOJ conduct a full investigation and trace where all the money went.

Does he still hold on to the billion dollar worth Robinhood shares?

Re: FTX to file for U.S. bankruptcy, CEO resigns

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Gaze on the beauty of this chart and despair: https://i.redd.it/078p4g7m6cz91.jpg

It actually gives Enron a run for its money: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Hamid-Ekbia-2/publicati...

You should see the structure of companies like IKEA or others who really have a complicated corporate structure.
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