Live data from Hacker News

Economic growth no longer requires rising emissions

economist.com

1–10 of 271 posts

Re: Economic growth no longer requires rising emissions

#4

> A large and growing group of mostly rich countries has severed the link between economic growth and rising emissions of greenhouse gases so they outsourced production to the poor countries.

From TFA:

"Strikingly, consumption emissions, which include a measure of the carbon embedded in imports, have fallen by 15% over the same period."

Re: Economic growth no longer requires rising emissions

#6
The real problem is that people are usually blind: almost nobody reasons about philosophic implications of induction. What I mean is this: can we know that in the portion of knowledge we don't know there isn't an even worse problem? In general we can't know the unknown, but we should at least try to look

Re: Economic growth no longer requires rising emissions

#7
post #4

> A large and growing group of mostly rich countries has severed the link between economic growth and rising emissions of greenhouse gases so they outsourced production to the poor countries.

From TFA: "Strikingly, consumption emissions, which include a measure of the carbon embedded in imports, have fallen by 15% over the same period."

Also, here's a graph from Our World In Data using consumption-based accounting for CO2 emissions. Note that US, Europe, and even India are declining in consumption (and China seems to be plateauing)

https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/co2?facet=none&country=...

Re: Economic growth no longer requires rising emissions

#9
post #4

> A large and growing group of mostly rich countries has severed the link between economic growth and rising emissions of greenhouse gases so they outsourced production to the poor countries.

From TFA: "Strikingly, consumption emissions, which include a measure of the carbon embedded in imports, have fallen by 15% over the same period."

In other words, China increased its nuclear power production

Re: Economic growth no longer requires rising emissions

#10
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From TFA: "Strikingly, consumption emissions, which include a measure of the carbon embedded in imports, have fallen by 15% over the same period."

In other words, China increased its nuclear power production

Consumption-based accounting shows across-the-board drop in the rate of CO2 emissions (for every continent [0]). Consumption-based accounting is, to quote OWID:

> production-based emissions minus emissions embedded in exports, plus emissions embedded in imports

[0] https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/co2?facet=none&country=...

Post reply on HN