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A better analogy is Twitter is a sick and dying patient and drastic measures are needed to be taken to save it. Whether or not you agree with those measures, well you don't have $44b on the line. Of all of Elon's businesses, this one is probably the most in his wheelhouse. He's a web guy after all.

patient is dying, better chop off an arm and a leg and remove some of the monitors and move the patient to a different building.

Extreme, but sometimes patients need exactly that

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> over the next few days, the absolute top priority is finding and suspending any verified bots/trolls/spam. Would it improve the situation to simply require a CAPTCHA once per day per non-subscriber to tweet? I would think it would greatly increase the cost to operate a troll farm, but have minimal impact on real users (setting aside accessibility and third-party clients a moment). If it causes attrition because som…

> some people decide it's not worth two seconds of clicking fire hydrants My reaction when I get the fire hydrants/traffic lights/whatever thing is to not bother and close the site. It's not because I can't spare two seconds, but because from past experience I know that whenever I get this it's an unending captcha hell. It seems that these days the only time you're given a captcha is when some AI somewhere already de…

This. My attention is worth more than that.

Re: Musk’s first email to Twitter staff ends remote work

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And how do you find "the people carrying the previous culture" and other deadwood? You have to observe them over several weeks/months. But Elon didn't do this at all. He is about as likely to have fired the best people as the worst people.

The worst people will never leave on their own.

Unless they're required to work 12 hour days, 7 days a week?

Re: Musk’s first email to Twitter staff ends remote work

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Or -- he's stupid.

What's stupid is people thinking that someone who successfully rules over some of the most influential companies in the world is stupid. Reminds me of all those people who claim that Trump or Putin[1] are "stupid" where in reality they just mean "I don't like them". [1] You can be a murderous dictator and not stupid, I would actually wager a guess that those people tend to actually be cleverer than average. Some appl…

I don't particularly dislike musk, but I'm happy to be on the sidelines of twitter. I like the site and hope he doesn't muck it up.

Re: Musk’s first email to Twitter staff ends remote work

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Everytime a new Commanding Officer (CO) showed up when I was in the Navy we tried to bet which type it was: 1) The kind who investigated the goings-on in the ship, interviewed the officers and chiefs, and learned how the ship was being run, then made small changes over time to optimize the operations based on what they learned. Sometimes big changes in one specific area, if it was required (like fixing the ship's cry…

You are assuming that he is optimizing for employee happiness. I am not associating a value judgement to whether that is the right/wrong move in Twitter's context. I wish that we, as a culture, stopped harping over what Elon Musk might do to Twitter next. It does not matter. This will take some time to play out. I hope Twitter employees land on their feet. That is pretty much the only thing that matters. I don't have…

I bet a lot of people actually experience Schadenfreude at seeing these social media empires being toppled.

The point was not employee happiness, but an attitude that completely ignores that the employees might know a thing or two about how to run the place. And plenty of employees are willing to put up with subpar pay and otherwise boring work if they feel valued for the stewardship and experience.

Re: Musk’s first email to Twitter staff ends remote work

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post #357

Everytime a new Commanding Officer (CO) showed up when I was in the Navy we tried to bet which type it was: 1) The kind who investigated the goings-on in the ship, interviewed the officers and chiefs, and learned how the ship was being run, then made small changes over time to optimize the operations based on what they learned. Sometimes big changes in one specific area, if it was required (like fixing the ship's cry…

Wait, each ship works completely different from the other ships, there are no established generic procedures, the crew just figures out how they want to do encryption? When you transfer onto another ship, do you need a long onboarding as well, does each ship have its own culture? How do they coordinate?

Of course there are standards, execution is another story

Re: Musk’s first email to Twitter staff ends remote work

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post #357

Everytime a new Commanding Officer (CO) showed up when I was in the Navy we tried to bet which type it was: 1) The kind who investigated the goings-on in the ship, interviewed the officers and chiefs, and learned how the ship was being run, then made small changes over time to optimize the operations based on what they learned. Sometimes big changes in one specific area, if it was required (like fixing the ship's cry…

Wait, each ship works completely different from the other ships, there are no established generic procedures, the crew just figures out how they want to do encryption? When you transfer onto another ship, do you need a long onboarding as well, does each ship have its own culture? How do they coordinate?

> Wait, each ship works completely different from the other ships, there are no established generic procedures, the crew just figures out how they want to do encryption?

There's some commonality, but it's like a fork of other ships. When a new ship is stood up and built, the pre-comissioning crew will write the SOPs for the new ship. Most of the time, you crib it from an old ship and make changes you think are useful, like a fork. There are some standards from up high, especially encryption stuff, but things can be run with some discretion.

Crypto was probably a bad example, since no decent Navy crypto tech would deviate from the proper procedures, even in the face of the CO asking for it. Kinda like how once the CO asked me to use more ordnance for training than I was alloted, and I said "no" and he said "yes" and I said "if you do this, I will put in writing that I told you not to and you did it anyways and I also won't operate the system to check out the ordnance, so we'll have an imbalance" and he said "ok".

> When you transfer onto another ship, do you need a long onboarding as well,

Not long, but a bit, yes. Much like starting a new job. For some jobs, you shadow the current position holder for a good while.

> does each ship have its own culture?

Yes, undoubtedly.

> How do they coordinate?

Generally via SIPRchat, radio, flag signals, etc.

But seriously, we have some standards for operations that make the different ships able to inter-operate easily. You also have groups of ships under commanders who do a bit more to coalesce those ships into a unit.

Re: Musk’s first email to Twitter staff ends remote work

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post #302

> over the next few days, the absolute top priority is finding and suspending any verified bots/trolls/spam. Would it improve the situation to simply require a CAPTCHA once per day per non-subscriber to tweet? I would think it would greatly increase the cost to operate a troll farm, but have minimal impact on real users (setting aside accessibility and third-party clients a moment). If it causes attrition because som…

> some people decide it's not worth two seconds of clicking fire hydrants My reaction when I get the fire hydrants/traffic lights/whatever thing is to not bother and close the site. It's not because I can't spare two seconds, but because from past experience I know that whenever I get this it's an unending captcha hell. It seems that these days the only time you're given a captcha is when some AI somewhere already de…

Right? The reward for identifying all the traffic lights is that you get to identify all the boats, then all the stop signs. Wait, what were you trying to do again?

Re: Musk’s first email to Twitter staff ends remote work

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jason: Back of the envelope... Twitter revenue per employee: $5B rev / 8k employees = $625K rev per employee in 2021 Google revenue per employee: $257B rev2/ 135K employee2= $1.9M per employee in 2021 Apple revenue per employee: $365B rev / 154k employees= $2.37M per employee in fiscal 2021 Jason: Twitter revenue per employee if 3k instead of 8k: $5B rev/ 3k employees= $1.66m rev per employee in 2021 (more industry s…

Twitter employees: “we’re going to vote to unionize” When you have nothing left to lose, why wouldn’t you? It brings the federal government in to provide support, on their dime no less. Worst case is everyone leaves, the NLRB finds against Musk, and he has to give folks their jobs back while Twitter is burning. “The strongest steel is forged in the fires of a dumpster.”

Pipe dreams
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