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This kinda thing is great for the "remote work at all hours" is the erzats demon keeping software companies alive. If it is, we'll likely see some downtime, lots of typical E company results (burned out software folks, higher turnover than is industry standard, and much lower pay since Elon doesn't negotiate at silicon valley salary expectations at any of his companies... If in 2 years Twitter isn't significantly sma…

If, in 1 year (or less), Twitter headquarters isn't moved to Texas, I'd be surprised.

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I've got to imagine that some of their revenue losses in advertising are due to the fact that various companies/brands simply don't want to be associated with Musk in the slightest. If he was serious about ad revenue, he'd also be serious about Twitter's branding.

Note that I'm not saying there are no Musk fans in the world - there are. But he is divisive, which is a trait not beneficial when trying to strengthen your brand.

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I have to admit if I was an executive and I watched one of those "day in the life of" tiktoks from twitter employees that show them spending maybe 20% of their day doing work and the other 80% enjoying company amenities I might be considering tightening things up as well.

Why would you assume that a video posted to social media is at all representative of someone's work day? The actual work is usually really dull.

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Everytime a new Commanding Officer (CO) showed up when I was in the Navy we tried to bet which type it was: 1) The kind who investigated the goings-on in the ship, interviewed the officers and chiefs, and learned how the ship was being run, then made small changes over time to optimize the operations based on what they learned. Sometimes big changes in one specific area, if it was required (like fixing the ship's cry…

>>>>> and generally acted like they owned the place this is the $44B problem to your CO analogy. Skin in the game. The world runs far better on it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

I see you edited your comment from the original:

> this seems to be a significant problem to your CO analogy.

So let me ask you… how does a ship’s commanding officer not have more skin in the game? A rich person loses their second home or yacht when things go south… a person on a ship can hit the brig or lose their life.

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It feels like remote work is a distraction here.. it's more like Musk realizes he bought a company that was in a lot more trouble than anyone out in the public can understand and he's scrambling for anything. Everyone is all worried about what this means for remote work at other companies when it might not mean anything at all since the other companies don't have the same circumstances as Twitter. Also we're all defe…

> it's more like Musk realizes he bought a company that was in a lot more trouble than anyone out in the public can understand Or he bought a company and by doing so placed it in a lot more trouble than it was previously.

This seems to be the popular view, everyone has been irrationally cheering for Twitter for 10+ years now but it ignores twitter's long term financial results as we head into an economic contraction.

That's the whole thing.. Musk made his stupid public decision to buy Twitter before the economic winds shifted. By the time it closed things had changed. He harmed Twitter by the way the whole thing dragged out, but Twitter was damaged goods anyway and has become more damaged by the economic winds in addition to Musk.

Twitter was betting the farm that investors would continue to ignore the bottom line and money would continue to be easy and valuations would continue to be decoupled from results.

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> He wants to show he can spend that kind of money[...] Reminder: he expressly did not want to spend that kind of money but was forced to after facing a near-certain defeat in Delaware court. I wasn't expecting the events to be mythologized beyond recognition within weeks.

If you're going to correct someone, you'd likely want to do it right: he did not want to spend that kind of money after having agreed to do so in a legally binding way. Mark of a business genius who is definitely not impulsive and driven by ego.

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I think you have it backwards. This is how you accomplish a 75% reduction while only having to lay off (and pay severance for) 50%! Musk again playing 4d chess.

Forcing people who were told they can work fully remote in their employment agreement to work in the office is treated as a constructive dismissal in the U.S. As this constructive dismissal is clearly part of the mass layoffs, they would also be subject to the 60 days notice under the WARN Act (or 60 days pay to waive notice).

“Is clearly” is doing a lot of work here, and I suspect Twitter’s lawyers don’t share your investment in it.
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