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Financially doesn’t make sense. It’s the most stupid thing ever. If the US gov pulls the rag he might go broke really quick.

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Let's say you run a company and you want to reduce staff. Let's also say you want to make an unpopular decision (or multiple unpopular decisions) that you know will drive a certain percentage of your staff to leave the company. Wouldn't it make the most sense to announce those decisions before making layoffs? Let people self select whether they want to stay and work for you and then make your layoffs after to ensure…

This is the part you are overthinking: "Wouldn't it make the most sense..."

It would makes sense to hire a CEO. It would make sense to plan a layoff so you don't have to beg key people to return, etc. Musk frames this as making mistakes while working fast.

In this case it will push more people to leave. There is probably intent, if not exactly thought and planning behind this because Really Bad Things have not happened yet.

An indication that might change is that the CISO, security chief, and privacy chief resigned together, possibly with advice of counsel re the two FTC consent decrees.

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Interesting strategic window: You can't innovate and software engineer using 1950s style "butts in seats". Maybe this is a signal twitter isn't going to innovate, develop, and maybe even operate, internally, at least going forward. You need code for a new feature? Buy a startup that already wrote it. You need to keep something running? Contract out instead of employees. Very few companies have a full time plumber or…

What has Twitter innovated on in the past decade?

While I don't agree with the way Elon has been making this move, it's sure looking like he's trying to clear the place out so he can establish a new culture. These policy changes are likely to scare mobile, top-performers off to other companies. This likely clears out a lot of internal dissent and heal digging to make room for new "top performers".

I wouldn't be shocked if we see new "top talent" hires in 3 to 6 months then _actual_ new innovation in 6 to 12 months.

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Some people at Twitter have remote work in their employment contract.

And Musk has repeatedly demonstrated that he has no respect for legal contracts.

A legal contract is only as good as someone's ability to enforce it. Otherwise the idea that it's some kind of a bond and companies or people should or do just 'the right thing' is not unfortunately reality.

I would not say he has any more or less respect for legal contracts than any other 'typical' company or business person (from my experience).

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Definitely check with Twitter employees before assuming that. On the one hand yeah, maybe. On the other, if I was depressed with how off-course my company had gotten, watching someone come in and clean house / shake things up would be very exciting.

Unless Musk is giving existing workers a ton of ISOs I don’t see why they should care at all how Twitter does at this point. A worker being excited about a shakeup entailing significantly less freedom, and significantly more work, stress and instability has got to have a bad case of brain worms.

Stock options in a non public company are only as valuable as the boss decides to make them.

They do work as toilet paper though.

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My take is probably a bit more hot and less to do with anything provable. I think the real reason for "return to work" is to justify high salaries. If everyone dispersed across the United States then people in the highest markets would get significant drops in pay. It's no secret that subsidizing extremely high housing costs has the benefit of earning those people more than the average worker doing the same work over…

It's not like your income is scaled to the housing costs though. I just checked craigslist for Los angeles and Columbus, Ohio. 1 bedroom average in LA is $2000 and change, Columbus its $1000. For a year in the average 1 bedroom, you are only paying $12k more or so for the unit in LA. Other costs are about the same, the same MSRP for consumer goods, about the same grocery bill (certain food is honestly very cheap in L…

> Most engineer salaries however are substantially higher on the west coast than in the midwest,

In northern CA this holds true and even moreso in Seattle. In southern california (notably because you mention Los Angeles), this is not true. There are high paying jobs in SoCal, but they are much scarcer than the talent pool. While there are more opportunities in SoCal than other parts of the west coast, they are lower paying and worse conditions overall that are closer to midwest counterparts. This view is borne of 40 years of experience in SoCal (and everyone I worked with). Moving to Seattle, I instantly made 30% more AND rent was cheaper.

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These kinds of faux insights are shallow.

Everything he is doing is done in quiet corporate ways all the time. Why is his way so celebrity like? It’s almost like he wants people to know. You can’t see that?

No one walks in with a fucking a sink to a company dude lol.

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why would anyone want to work for this asshole? It's not like the employees are well paid compared to other companies. If I wanted to get fisted, I'd just go to amazon and get a bigger check for it

Except Amazon is in a hiring freeze. Musk knows now is the time to make “unreasonable” demands.

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Born with an emerald spoon in his mouth, it's no surprise that Musk has no empathy with the common worker. On top of his ridiculous level of wealth, he has an absurdly large ego to go with it, and an army of turd-polishers ready to laud everything he does. This guy is too big-headed to fail.

Let's not mince words, and talk about his real world lived experience: he treats people like apartheid-era South Africa.
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