Some people at Twitter have remote work in their employment contract.
Musk’s first email to Twitter staff ends remote work
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#202I think that the NYT article has the much better lede from the emails in it: Due to resignations by 3 top execs yesterday, engineers are now likely to have to make sure that their code is compliant with the FTC w.r.t. the 2011 judgement against Twitter. As in, there is a good chance that individual SWEs at Twitter are going to be legally culpable for violations. Even if I am totally misreading that quick lede about d…
> Due to resignations by 3 top execs yesterday, engineers are now likely to have to make sure that their code is compliant with the FTC w.r.t. the 2011 judgement against Twitter.
I think that’s backwards: the resignations by people responsible for compliance were due (among other issues) to the policy change (which they see as violating the order, which would put them personally at risk) that the process would change to engineer self-certification to support the desired velocity of change, the resignations were not the cause of the change.
Also, Twitter apparently has a sworn compliance report due today to the FTC (14 days from the change of ownership.)
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#203Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree that there are pros and cons to remote work, and that it should be possible to have a frank discussion about where the balance lies. However, that is sadly irrelevant to this news item, as Musk isn't banning remote work because of any logical consideration of its merits. He's banning remote work because he's an authoritarian micromanager who believes that workers are to be treated like cattle.
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That is explicitly untrue. We have labor laws in this country and many others.
Beyond that, all behavior is not reasonable just because it's done with ones own money.
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#204Earlier quoted context omitted.
Twitter isn't the same product(s) as Whatsapp. That difference is noticeable within 1 minute of opening both applications.
Yes, WhatsApp seem more complex. In all seriousness, I think many of us are falling into the trap that the PayPal guy fell into. Twitter isn't just the app and the website. So it's much harder to run and maintain than it seems like from the outside. If it was just the Tweets, why would they ever need more than 10 iOS developers for instance? If we cut Twitter into what it is on the surface, and perhaps lose some data…
>Yes, WhatsApp seem more complex.
K.
Nobody asked Musk to acquire the company. The only reason it went through is thanks to a long line of court rulings starting with Dodge v. Ford Motor Co. that prioritized shareholder interest over every other stakeholders. You can't expect to practically traumatize a company's culture like this and expect all the "right people" to still stay here and give their 100%.
Re: Musk’s first email to Twitter staff ends remote work
#205> over the next few days, the absolute top priority is finding and suspending any verified bots/trolls/spam. Would it improve the situation to simply require a CAPTCHA once per day per non-subscriber to tweet? I would think it would greatly increase the cost to operate a troll farm, but have minimal impact on real users (setting aside accessibility and third-party clients a moment). If it causes attrition because som…
Not a bad idea, but, like, Elon's just gonna change his mind again by next week.
"We've dispatched a Tesla Model 3 to your current browser's location. To verify you are not a robot you must drive it for one hour and achieve a better Safety Score than the built-in autopilot is capable of achieving."
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#206At this point why would anyone want to stay at twitter? The mood must be absolutely abysmal.
Definitely check with Twitter employees before assuming that. On the one hand yeah, maybe. On the other, if I was depressed with how off-course my company had gotten, watching someone come in and clean house / shake things up would be very exciting.
Layoffs are always morale-killers. Twitter isn't particularly special in this regard, and if Twitter found a way to lay off 50% within 3 days to a boost of morale to the remaining workforce that would be finally be the one truly innovative accomplishment its done, lol.
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#207Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree that there are pros and cons to remote work, and that it should be possible to have a frank discussion about where the balance lies. However, that is sadly irrelevant to this news item, as Musk isn't banning remote work because of any logical consideration of its merits. He's banning remote work because he's an authoritarian micromanager who believes that workers are to be treated like cattle.
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Everyone has the right to quit too. Anyone still at Twitter who is not sharpening their resumes and applying for new jobs at this point is a fool.
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#208Let's say you run a company and you want to reduce staff. Let's also say you want to make an unpopular decision (or multiple unpopular decisions) that you know will drive a certain percentage of your staff to leave the company. Wouldn't it make the most sense to announce those decisions before making layoffs? Let people self select whether they want to stay and work for you and then make your layoffs after to ensure all teams are properly staffed. Instead, Musk has already laid people off to the point that they are trying to hire back people previously laid off and current employees are sleeping in the office. Now he is pushing even more people out the door with no control over what teams will be hurt the hardest.
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#209I see we're still deep in the "fuck around" stage and have yet to reach "find out."
What you find out is in proportion to how much you fuck around. You have to fuck around to innovate and do new shit. It took a lot of fucking at Tesla and SpaceX to get to where they are.
They fucked around when they were a startup. It’s not often we get to see the fuck around at this level. It’s his and he can do as he pleases which makes this more entertaining than anything I’ve ever witnessed
Re: Musk’s first email to Twitter staff ends remote work
#210I think that the NYT article has the much better lede from the emails in it: Due to resignations by 3 top execs yesterday, engineers are now likely to have to make sure that their code is compliant with the FTC w.r.t. the 2011 judgement against Twitter. As in, there is a good chance that individual SWEs at Twitter are going to be legally culpable for violations. Even if I am totally misreading that quick lede about d…
More info about that: https://www.theverge.com/2022/11/10/23451198/twitter-ftc-elo... > The FTC reached a settlement with Twitter in May after the company was caught using personal user info to target ads. If Twitter doesn’t comply with that agreement, the FTC can issue fines reaching into the billions of dollars, according to the lawyer’s note to employees. > The note goes on to say that its author, who The Verge kn…
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