The Twitter thread from SBF is even better where he admits he messed up. And still trying to throw jabs at Binance here and there like it’s their fault they’re here. Unbelievable.
FTX tapped into customer accounts to fund risky bets, setting up its downfall
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#102I highly recommend reading this article, from 50 days ago . So many humorous quotes to be had in that article. https://www.sequoiacap.com/article/sam-bankman-fried-spotlig... edit: archive https://archive.ph/GQkCp
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>ponzi scheme This is not a ponzi scheme. This is a good old "not firewalling your customer's money and your investment money" that everyone suffered from in 2008. The situation is cataphoric enough without people mis-using terms.
They used FTT as collateral for loans used on trading activities that boosted FTT value It's not literally a Ponzi, but it's Ponzi adjacent behavior, like what Bill Hwang did.
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#106Remarkable that a venture-backed company can loan $10B to the founder's hedge fund without running into some sort of board/corporate sign-off that's required to literally execute the agreement/fund transfer.
Would this even be possible at any hedge fund?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Corzine
> Corzine was subpoenaed to appear before a House committee on December 8, 2011, to answer questions regarding 1.2 billion dollars of missing money from MF Global client accounts. He testified before the committee, "I simply do not know where the money is, or why the accounts have not been reconciled to date," and that given the number of money transfers in the final days of trading at MF Global, he didn't know specifics of the movement of the funds. He also denied authorizing any misuse of customer funds.
> On the day of MF Global's bankruptcy, a Bloomberg reporter wrote "Jon Corzine's risk appetite helped destroy his firm. It also provided an object lesson for Paul Volcker's campaign against proprietary trading on Wall Street."
Re: FTX tapped into customer accounts to fund risky bets, setting up its downfall
#107I highly recommend reading this article, from 50 days ago . So many humorous quotes to be had in that article. https://www.sequoiacap.com/article/sam-bankman-fried-spotlig... edit: archive https://archive.ph/GQkCp
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#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
Richmond, CA police department. Alameda Research HQ is at 5327 Jacuzzi St Ste 1c, Richmond, CA 94804. Since they were apparently the recipient of the money, and he's apparently the principal beneficiary of all this, that's where to start. Mr. Bankman-Fried may not physically be there, but they have jurisdiction. Once there's an arrest warrant, getting away becomes much more difficult.
You're conflating FTX.us (which is regulated) and operates in the USA, and FTX global (where all this chicanery happened) and is located in the Bahamas. With that said, the SEC is already also investigating any potential links between the two entities. I don't think they'd be stupid enough to cross those wires, but you never know.
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Banks are highly regulated in exactly how much of the deposits they can use and what kind of risks they can take with it. This is complicated: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_requirement Also in the US at least banks are FDIC insured, so if the bank is breaking the law and gambling inappropriately consumers are still protected. "How is crypto different than a bank" is a reductive and foolish comparison. There a…
I'm not sure I agree with you on that part.
Fraud is defined as "wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain." Encryption-based currency by itself does not meet that definition.
Can people use crypto to commit fraud? Yes, just the same as they could use fiat or anything else that has perceived value.
imho the main value of crypto as a technology is that it is A) decentralized, and B) removes many intermediaries & inefficiencies involved in handling + distributing money.