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Re: Musk’s first email to Twitter staff ends remote work

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At this point why would anyone want to stay at twitter? The mood must be absolutely abysmal.

Definitely check with Twitter employees before assuming that. On the one hand yeah, maybe. On the other, if I was depressed with how off-course my company had gotten, watching someone come in and clean house / shake things up would be very exciting.

How many are left? /s

Re: Musk’s first email to Twitter staff ends remote work

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What are the chances that Musk composed and sent this email while working remotely? Very high I reckon.

Related, what are the odds that Musk would be cool with any Twitter employee taking multiple other full-time jobs at the same time?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Over summer, tech companies were offering wheelbarrows full of cash to potential employees. Love him or hate him, once he started f'ing around at twitter, why would anyone have stayed? Unless you really desperately wanted to be in the presence of the man himself, and maybe thought he was going to buy you a horse in exchange for something

Probably it takes more than a week to find a new job and people like to have the new job in hand before quiting the old one.

It's been 2 weeks since he officially bought it, but working at twitter (and even as an outsider just reading the news), you see the writing on the wall. There were tons of reports of planned layoffs, and the changes that Elon wanted to see in the company. None of what he is doing is surprising, least of all to Twitter employees.

Re: Musk’s first email to Twitter staff ends remote work

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's not a technologist, he's a ruthless capitalist playing with other people's money. Idk why he gets so much support. That guy is a wolf in sheep's clothing. He doesn't care about the planet, or the people, he cares about his bottom line and nothing else.

Do you have anything of substance to add besides ad hominem attacks that don't really even make sense? Let's break this down: > He's not a technologist, he's a ruthless capitalist playing with other people's money. Idk why he gets so much support. Calling someone a capitalist isn't the dig you think it is, especially on a website run by a VC firm. Musk has a track record for returning profit to investors. > That guy…

EV’s do not save the planet. EV’s are a way to profit off government subsidies.

Re: Musk’s first email to Twitter staff ends remote work

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post #58

The one-sidedness of the comments in this thread surprise me. If you want to work remotely, don’t work at Twitter. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with Musk thinking it’s more beneficial for his employees to work in the office. He has goals and methods of working towards them. He wants likeminded people to work towards those goals. Can you really not think of pros and cons of either situation? To give my opinion, if…

It’s fair to critique someone who just upended the lives of all these people.

I’m not sure if I’m comfortable judging the “fairness of critiquing”, but it’s a business under new ownership. Changes are going to happen.

Re: Musk’s first email to Twitter staff ends remote work

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post #23

I am split on the remote work thing from a productivity / creativity perspective. I do think there are times when I'm less productivity working from home compared to the office. I also think as a team we're less creative. Some of the best stuff I've done in my career has come out of casual conversations with my team about the stuff we're building. I've noticed I don't think about what I'm building as much when workin…

I agree that there are pros and cons to remote work, and that it should be possible to have a frank discussion about where the balance lies.

However, that is sadly irrelevant to this news item, as Musk isn't banning remote work because of any logical consideration of its merits. He's banning remote work because he's an authoritarian micromanager who believes that workers are to be treated like cattle.

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post #23

I am split on the remote work thing from a productivity / creativity perspective. I do think there are times when I'm less productivity working from home compared to the office. I also think as a team we're less creative. Some of the best stuff I've done in my career has come out of casual conversations with my team about the stuff we're building. I've noticed I don't think about what I'm building as much when workin…

IMHO the ideal situation would be for people to work in their own offices, with doors that closed, and short commutes. Easy to work distraction-free alone, easy to have group meetings and random chats. But real estate costs have made this approach untenable, so something has to give.

> But real estate costs have made this approach untenable, so something has to give.

I need a citation here. Big tech was so large and profitable the last decade that thinking it’s real estate costs that led them to open office spaces and not a flawed ideology re: work and collaboration.

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