Cash tips are always superior when tips are actually applicable. If its just on a POS system I never tip. If I am expected to tip before service is rendered I also won't tip, since how can I possibly know what to tip if I haven't received the service yet? For cash tips you can wait until service is rendered no matter whatever shitty POS service the restaurant owner contacted with, plus there is no risk of the restaurant owner pilfering from the tip jar if the money goes directly from your hand to your intended recipient, and taxes are de facto eliminated.
Why Is Tipping Everywhere You Checkout?
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#192Some (many?) countries have demonstrated that no-tipping can work just fine. > makes them less competitive to any nearby coffeeshops that haven't raised prices Maybe I'm an outlier but for me I'm sick of the mental game of "Am I good member of society for the % I selected, and how much will my date judge me if I choose what used to be the norm -- 10%-15%... and am I the sucker if I choose a high amount while other pe…
> Why cant we just give employees dignity and a fair wage? We do and that's tipped wages. A career waiter in a major American city can make over 100k, which is several times more than what they would make in Europe. Even if you adjust for cost of living and median incomes, it's still going to be much higher. On the low end of the spectrum, tipped wages and untipped wages would be both at minimum wage.
According to Google: As of Nov 2, 2022, the average annual pay for a Waiter in New York City is $35,180 a year. Just in case you need a simple salary calculator, that works out to be approximately $16.91 an hour. This is the equivalent of $676/week or $2,931/month.
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#193Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Why cant we just give employees dignity and a fair wage? Apropos of nothing, I’ll just mention that the Fed is currently trying to decrease employment [1] and eliminate people’s savings [2]. [1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2022/08/27/fed-chair-... [2] https://twitter.com/schwarz/status/1587873284997218304
You are being downvoted because this is largely unrelated to the topic at hand.
It’s not. The point is that there’s an incentive among those who control capital to prevent most people from being financially secure. It’s why (for example) the tipped minimum wage exists, and why wage theft is rarely (if ever) prosecuted or covered in the news even though the amount of money stolen is orders of magnitude larger than the amount shoplifted.
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#194I keep seeing tip prompts for store purchases that don’t even involve prepared food. Oddly they have like 1%, 3%, 5% as options.
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#195> If a coffeeshop wants to pay their employees more they will have to raise prices This does not follow purely from the facts presented. Consider: "If a coffee shop wanted to pay their employees more, the coffee shop itself might take a smaller cut and keep prices the same."
In practice coffee shops have tiny margins so they can’t afford to do that.
They also have $6 cups of coffee.
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#196Some (many?) countries have demonstrated that no-tipping can work just fine. > makes them less competitive to any nearby coffeeshops that haven't raised prices Maybe I'm an outlier but for me I'm sick of the mental game of "Am I good member of society for the % I selected, and how much will my date judge me if I choose what used to be the norm -- 10%-15%... and am I the sucker if I choose a high amount while other pe…
> Why cant we just give employees dignity and a fair wage? We do and that's tipped wages. A career waiter in a major American city can make over 100k, which is several times more than what they would make in Europe. Even if you adjust for cost of living and median incomes, it's still going to be much higher. On the low end of the spectrum, tipped wages and untipped wages would be both at minimum wage.
It's not just waiters though, in fact the article specifically uses coffee shop employees as an example. I would be quite surprised if they're clearing 100k, even in a major city.
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#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Why cant we just give employees dignity and a fair wage? We do and that's tipped wages. A career waiter in a major American city can make over 100k, which is several times more than what they would make in Europe. Even if you adjust for cost of living and median incomes, it's still going to be much higher. On the low end of the spectrum, tipped wages and untipped wages would be both at minimum wage.
According to Google: As of Nov 2, 2022, the average annual pay for a Waiter in New York City is $35,180 a year. Just in case you need a simple salary calculator, that works out to be approximately $16.91 an hour. This is the equivalent of $676/week or $2,931/month.
This presumably doesn't include tips. The tips are also untaxed, giving them an even greater advantage
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#198Earlier quoted context omitted.
How can you tell? Most wealthy people - in my experience - don't dress the part.
In my case I delivered pizzas, and a person's house is often (though importantly not always) an indicator. My experience was that wealth doesn't seem to matter much for tipping. When I first started I always hoped for the order to the big houses, but as I gained experience I realized it really doesn't matter. Some wealthy people gave generously, as did many poorer people. One of my favorite customers was an illegal i…
From my pizza delivery experience...there are different kinds of rich people. Some people are rich because their parents were rich, or they married someone rich, or some other random reason.
They have no idea about money. It's a banana, how much could it cost, ten dollars? They just have no idea. None. I couldn't even have gotten mad if they didn't tip or gave a shitty tip, young man yells at sky.
Then you could deliver to the same house and someone else answers and it's the person that started the business that paid for the house, and they will tip. Because they know how to motivate workers, and that's money. In my ancient pizza delivering days 2 dollars was a good tip, 3 dollars meant the next time I'm out on a run with three stops, yours is the first. If you don't tip, Greg gets your order. Greg's the kid that only got hired because his dad is friends with the owner, and he tends to get lost and we have to send someone out to rescue him.
Money makes the world go around.
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#199This is exactly how I think about tipping. I, and many friends and family, worked retail and food service jobs when we were young. Now I’m professionally successful and will not miss a couple extra bucks on a cup of coffee. So I’m happy to help boost the person serving it to me. I know it means way more to them than it does to me. This also explains why people (including me) get SO MAD if they find out that tips don’…
Another issue with DoorDash and GrubHub is that I am supposed to tip BEFORE delivery. I do that but most of the time my orders get delivered to a wrong building because drivers don't seem to read my delivery instructions.
I wish I could tip them directly after the delivery, but I am concerned that no one would pick up my order if I set the tip to $0 in the app.
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#200I have a crazy idea for this: legally mandate that any business that excepts tipping must allow negative tipping, up to the same max percentage the positive tip can be. Places that are high-end/service oriented will then allow tips, because the vast majority of customers will. Maybe even your local fancy bar would ban you for leaving a -10% tip. But subway? They’ll turn that off immediately because almost everyone wi…
I would LOVE to see this. Does anyone here have the connections to get this written into law?