I think a more interesting analysis would have compared people whose lives are at stake in political fights vs. those who are well-off enough that they can participate as a sort of hobby (or, yes, as a way of accumulating cultural capital). For the latter group, their beliefs and their ability to participate in political debates are indeed a luxury. But I don't think this divide would mirror the US culture war as closely as the author seems to think it would.
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#13Even if the larger idea of luxury beliefs is true, the choice of "defund the police" as one is really bizarre to me. No one benefits more from the existence of the police than those who would harbor these luxury beliefs.
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#14I don’t think the author understands what people mean when they say “defund the police”.
Sanewashing is the process by which radical policies get watered down - as a political movement becomes more mainstream, every new member wants to be able to explain the movement to their parents, and so chooses a slightly less radical, easier to understand interpretation. This happens over and over again until you reach the point where the watered down beliefs are the majority, and the movement finds people with the original radical beliefs are an embarrassment to be silenced.
"Defund The Police" isn't merely a confusing choice of name - the initial founders of the movement meant it literally, in the way an anarchist might. It's only as more people joined the movement that it's been sanewashed to mean "have more drug treatment, social workers and mental health crisis first responders, alongside the police"
[1] https://tracingwoodgrains.medium.com/r-antiwork-a-tragedy-of...
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#15Evaluating income alone is a very poor indicator of relative wealth. $100k in even a small city ain't exactly upper class living, and it certainly ain't usually enough for most people to "live in safe, often gated communities" or "hire private security". The failure to breakdown by income v. cost of living is a glaring issue with this analysis, as is not including further thresholds (say, $500k).
Another analytical failure here is the ignorance of the urban v. suburban v. town v. rural differences exhibited in the table the author included. Support for police defunding drops dramatically in rural areas, and those areas just so happen to be the ones with the least exposure to police brutality (v. urban and suburban populations experiencing it regularly).
There's also the low sample size, but that's relatively minor of an issue compared to the above.
> They found that individuals with higher income or a higher social status were the most likely to say that success results from luck and connections rather than hard work, while low-income individuals were more likely to say success comes from hard work and individual effort.
Considering that (according to the article) the ones who believe that success comes from hard work and individual effort haven't found that success, while the ones who believe it results from luck and connections have found that success, that would rather strongly suggest that the latter assessment is correct. Duping the working class into believing they'll find success if they toil harder for their bosses is exactly how the ownership class maintains its control over the working class.
> When I was growing up in foster homes, or making minimum wage as a dishwasher, or serving in the military, I never heard words like “cultural appropriation” or “gendered” or “heteronormative.”
Neither had rich people, because these terms didn't enter the public discourse (outside of academic circles and other niches) until recently. Nowadays, these terms are not so confined. Per the author's argument, these are no longer status symbols; they were 10 or 20 years ago, but today you can find plenty of wage workers who have at least a vague idea of what these terms mean and use them. You no longer need to be an academic to know that some people have genders and sexes that don't match up or that sometimes cultural traditions end up adopted in caricaturized forms.
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#16This idea that egalitarian beliefs are elite because working people don't have time to dabble in them is maybe one of the most damaging remnants of colonialism in America.
I lived that for several years at various labor jobs. Keep your head down and do your job or you'll get singled out. Somebody's gotta do it. Blame the elites spending our tax dollars (used to liberals, before that it was hippies, and commies before that).
Hopefully we get past this self-limiting style of thinking.
The truth is what sets us free. For example: working people thinking that hard work will lead to success is a tool that the wealthy use to keep people doing labor which isn't lucrative. People in crime-ridden neighborhoods know that the police won't come when they call them, that's why they want to defund the police and shift those funds to education and training to reduce the motivation for crime in the first place. Famous people endorsing ideas like Black Lives Matter isn't the same as a grassroots movement to root out systemic racism, although it helps.
I hesitate to even comment here because it creates a divisive atmosphere. But I can't sit idly by when these quippy and truthy opinion pieces are put forth as some kind of insightful revelation. But see, that was the point. The piece itself stirs feelings of division and gaslights the lower classes he's talking about which don't believe what he's writing.
How do we get to a higher understanding without constant vigilance? I honestly don't know. The US is working through some messy stuff right now. I think it begins with each person attempting to understand another's point of view. I would say empathy, but see, that word has been weaponized. We're losing the very vocabulary and civic engagement needed to heal the country.
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#171. Peer pressure / virtue signalling / peacockery
2. Replacement guilt/shame hitching a ride on the decline of Christian values
3. Disassociation from reality, either due to physical distance (money) or mental distance (tech enabled social bubble)
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#18I think this represents a fundamental difference in how people perceive "safety" and where it comes from. The author seems to suggest that wealthy individuals feel safe because they have access to additional security measures such as gates or private guards. I've seen this quite commonly in some parts of the world, but my experience in the US is quite the opposite: wealthy communities are so segregated from poverty and, subsequently, crime, that they don't feel the need to put up defenses.
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#191. Police Departments don't need to be reformed
2. Police departments have a problem with race but the problem can be fixed by reforming the current system
3. Police reform hasn't worked. We need to defund police and reinvent our approach to public safety.
I don't like the branding of "defund the police" but I'd still choose 3.
Not because I live in an elite gated community and can afford to collapse society just to show off, but because of the three options it's the closest to my beliefs.
Sending untrained people with guns to deal with mental health and or drug addictions is just stupid.
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#20I think the author misses the point that often those poorer people who are victimized by criminals are then ignored or even endangered by the police response. Police budgets keep increasing and outcomes including percentage of solved crimes keep declining. A good portion of that money could be much better spent on eradicating poverty, treating drug addictions instead of incarcerating users, keeping people in schools,…