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Octopuses caught on camera throwing things at each other

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Re: Octopuses caught on camera throwing things at each other

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May I suggest a book to anybody that finds cephalopods interesting, especially given the connection with consciousness which is a recurring topic in these circles: Other Minds: The Octopus, the Sea, and the Deep Origins of Consciousness My only critique is that the plural spelling is octopuses and not octopi , just like the article. Octopuses just looks wrong and sounds funny, I stand my ground. Yes yes I know that i…

If you want to get really pedantic, use Octopodes :)

> If you want to get really pedantic

Well that certainly got our attention. Please, continue.

Re: Octopuses caught on camera throwing things at each other

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When I first read the title for some reason I envisioned the throw to look like a sentinel throwing a bomb in The Matrix. Nothing like that, obviously.

My question is: was it throwing the shells out since it’s done eating them or in response to the other octopus that’s sort of messing with it?

Re: Octopuses caught on camera throwing things at each other

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post #14

When I first read the title for some reason I envisioned the throw to look like a sentinel throwing a bomb in The Matrix . Nothing like that, obviously. My question is: was it throwing the shells out since it’s done eating them or in response to the other octopus that’s sort of messing with it?

The shells throwing example wasn't as convincing as the silt throwing example.

Re: Octopuses caught on camera throwing things at each other

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it's interesting how the constraint of being in water limits inhabitants from developing technologies like fire and throwing projectiles for hunting. octopuses seem like they have the physiology and neurology to figure out projectiles and even grinding a sharp point, but that strategy wouldn't give them the same boost it did early humans because of the drag of water. construction and engineering is also made difficult by tides and erosion so they don't take it much farther than piling up some shells and rocks for a little sleep spot.

Re: Octopuses caught on camera throwing things at each other

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post #14

When I first read the title for some reason I envisioned the throw to look like a sentinel throwing a bomb in The Matrix . Nothing like that, obviously. My question is: was it throwing the shells out since it’s done eating them or in response to the other octopus that’s sort of messing with it?

"... although some of the time it seemed that they were just throwing away debris or food leftovers, it did sometimes appear that they were throwing things at each other."

That one instance is kinda hard to tell, but it sounds like they saw similar behaviour across observations.

Re: Octopuses caught on camera throwing things at each other

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May I suggest a book to anybody that finds cephalopods interesting, especially given the connection with consciousness which is a recurring topic in these circles: Other Minds: The Octopus, the Sea, and the Deep Origins of Consciousness My only critique is that the plural spelling is octopuses and not octopi , just like the article. Octopuses just looks wrong and sounds funny, I stand my ground. Yes yes I know that i…

some recent speculative sci-fi on same subject, The Mountain in the Sea by Ray Nayler set in near future Vietnam.

Re: Octopuses caught on camera throwing things at each other

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May I suggest a book to anybody that finds cephalopods interesting, especially given the connection with consciousness which is a recurring topic in these circles: Other Minds: The Octopus, the Sea, and the Deep Origins of Consciousness My only critique is that the plural spelling is octopuses and not octopi , just like the article. Octopuses just looks wrong and sounds funny, I stand my ground. Yes yes I know that i…

No, the plural is octopodes, just like cactus->cactodes, virus->virodes and surplus-surplodes (my favorite)

It may be a word like "fishes". I once saw "fishes" on an interpretive sign at an aquarium and some folks were mocking such and obvious grammatical error. Turns out, "fish" is the correct way to refer to multiple individual fish as a group, whereas "fishes" is the correct way to refer to multiple species of fish.

I wonder if "octopi" might refer to multiple octopus without making any indication as to weather they are or are not the same species, whereas 'octopodes' deliberately speaks across speciation? I dunno... I'm just spit-balling here. I probably should have done more research before commenting. Downvote if I'm way off base. :)

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