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Zoho's annual revenues surpassed $1B in 2021

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Re: Zoho's annual revenues surpassed $1B in 2021

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AFAIK they’re the only decent email provider that offers a free account that allows a custom domain. I use the $1/month mail lite plan. It’s nice to have an option that doesn’t cost as much as Microsoft and Google for people that want email on a custom domain, but don’t need all the cruft (drive, apps, etc).

I moved off Zoho when they dropped support for 'basic' email features like POP and IMAP access, which forces you to use their web or mobile app. I need unified inbox otherwise I will forget to check it.

Perhaps it's a pro only feature now or something? I just set up a client's phone to use Zoho with IMAP.

Re: Zoho's annual revenues surpassed $1B in 2021

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> Sridhar Vembu of Zoho said that no other company has built a billion dollar product company in India. India has no other billion dollar product companies? Doesn’t Tata sell cars?

I think he means software product company. Anyhow, regardless of that his statement is inaccurate because Zoho IS NOT an Indian company. Majority of its employees are in India (and the founder is Indian) but that's true for a lot of other international companies as well, that doesn't make them Indian.

It has its HQ in India, the founder is indian as you state as well (the other founder is american), the market is global, and the main jurisdiction is possibly american (?)

These things get blurry with global markets and jurisdictions, but I would definitely call them an indian company.

Re: Zoho's annual revenues surpassed $1B in 2021

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I moved off Zoho when they dropped support for 'basic' email features like POP and IMAP access, which forces you to use their web or mobile app. I need unified inbox otherwise I will forget to check it.

Perhaps it's a pro only feature now or something? I just set up a client's phone to use Zoho with IMAP.

Yeah I think it moved to paid sadly. But custom domain is amazing

Re: Zoho's annual revenues surpassed $1B in 2021

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I've been using Zoho's email for a few years now (only because they used to provide free custom domain email - brilliant growth tactic!). The service itself works perfectly and integrates well with Apple Mail (albeit they changed the server configurations over the years two times if I recall correctly). Though their web client leaves some to be desired, it made very good progress and I believe it would be comparable…

I have not had good integration experiences with Apple Mail. Their service doesn't support mail push last time I checked, so you end up waiting 15 minutes or so for messages whenever Apple Mail decides to poll IMAP

Re: Zoho's annual revenues surpassed $1B in 2021

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think he means software product company. Anyhow, regardless of that his statement is inaccurate because Zoho IS NOT an Indian company. Majority of its employees are in India (and the founder is Indian) but that's true for a lot of other international companies as well, that doesn't make them Indian.

It has its HQ in India, the founder is indian as you state as well (the other founder is american), the market is global, and the main jurisdiction is possibly american (?) These things get blurry with global markets and jurisdictions, but I would definitely call them an indian company.

What makes them more Indian is the lack of VC which usually forces Indian companies to HQ/incorporate in Singapore or USA.

It would be interesting to see which jurisdiction they pay highest taxes in though. It’s possible to find out for India, UK and EU, maybe I will.

Re: Zoho's annual revenues surpassed $1B in 2021

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post #7

AFAIK they’re the only decent email provider that offers a free account that allows a custom domain. I use the $1/month mail lite plan. It’s nice to have an option that doesn’t cost as much as Microsoft and Google for people that want email on a custom domain, but don’t need all the cruft (drive, apps, etc).

I moved off Zoho when they dropped support for 'basic' email features like POP and IMAP access, which forces you to use their web or mobile app. I need unified inbox otherwise I will forget to check it.

I thought they grandfathered free accounts that were using those.

But yeah, you have to pay for that stuff now. Personally I think it’s reasonable to have the free plan stripped down like that. It’s better than what Microsoft and Google did.

Re: Zoho's annual revenues surpassed $1B in 2021

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post #2

I've been using Zoho's email for a few years now (only because they used to provide free custom domain email - brilliant growth tactic!). The service itself works perfectly and integrates well with Apple Mail (albeit they changed the server configurations over the years two times if I recall correctly). Though their web client leaves some to be desired, it made very good progress and I believe it would be comparable…

> I believe it would be comparable to Gmail in the foreseeable future

Story of every email provider ever: Soon to look like Gmail. At one point you have to admit that Gmail is the best (meanwhile designers at Gmail are trying to remove features from the UI).

Looking like Gmail doesn’t even guarantee success: Marissa Mayer made an exact copy of Gmail in Yahoo Mail in 2014. It didn’t take off.

Re: Zoho's annual revenues surpassed $1B in 2021

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I moved to Zoho mail when Gmail threatened to kick us all off or pay money.

Honestly, I couldn't be happier. The spam filtering works as well or better, the email app is intuitive, and I no longer have to keep switching Google accounts. Previously it seemed every Google property just picked an account at random.

Re: Zoho's annual revenues surpassed $1B in 2021

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AFAIK they’re the only decent email provider that offers a free account that allows a custom domain. I use the $1/month mail lite plan. It’s nice to have an option that doesn’t cost as much as Microsoft and Google for people that want email on a custom domain, but don’t need all the cruft (drive, apps, etc).

I just use domain forwarding to have my inbound emails to my custom domain address land in my plain old Gmail account, and outbound ones to forward to my domain. All the benefits of Gmail at no cost.

Re: Zoho's annual revenues surpassed $1B in 2021

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post #6

AFAIK they’re the only decent email provider that offers a free account that allows a custom domain. I use the $1/month mail lite plan. It’s nice to have an option that doesn’t cost as much as Microsoft and Google for people that want email on a custom domain, but don’t need all the cruft (drive, apps, etc).

Yandex mail is better and it allows custom domain for free.

Yeah, but:

a) a lot of places block Russia and China wholesale against spam

b) they'e hosted in a genocidal regime without rule of law completely beholden to a dictator's whims.

Pass.

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