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Re: $118 16TB SSD on Amazon, 4 star reviews mention cuff links and coffee cups

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Reviews do work :) Does anybody can share an example of scam item on Amazon with majority reviews looking legit?

This item had even weirder reviews - the reviews are about some locks, pillow cases, etc. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BKJRFZQ8/ref=cm_sw_r_api_i_58ZZZ... What is the trick here? How do they get these reviews?

You sell a cheap and boring legitimate item, get some easy good reviews, then update the product listing to be something else entirely.

Re: $118 16TB SSD on Amazon, 4 star reviews mention cuff links and coffee cups

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How in the world does Amazon allow this

This has been going on for so long that the only possible explanation is that Amazon makes money from this kind of fraud and has decided that it is worth it.

They make big money from marketplace sellers, and the size of the roadblock needed to stop creative overseas scammers would be large enough to dissuade most legitimate sellers.

Re: $118 16TB SSD on Amazon, 4 star reviews mention cuff links and coffee cups

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How in the world does Amazon allow this

How is the FTC not suing Amazon for fraud on a daily basis? A lot of this shit is sold directly by them, not by Marketplace sellers, so Section 230 concerns do not apply.

Can they be held liable because of co-mingling inventory?

Re: $118 16TB SSD on Amazon, 4 star reviews mention cuff links and coffee cups

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Heh I just ran across this sort of thing yesterday. A 200+ page book on "how to delete a book from your kindle". Written by an apparently very prominent author with over 100 reviews that are all verified purchases. Some of them actually reference the "content" of this supposed book.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B094YHXZY6?ref_=cm_sw_r_ud_ts_3DFD...

I reported it yesterday and it's still up, we'll see what happens.

Re: $118 16TB SSD on Amazon, 4 star reviews mention cuff links and coffee cups

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My technique to avoid fraudulent products on Amazon: click on the seller ("Sold by mucaoxikeji") which reveals... "No feedback yet - NEW SELLER" Done ! Only took 2 seconds. It's very simple: I never buy from new sellers, or from those with too few reviews (<100). You do this and honestly you avoid 99% of fraudulent products. The 1% that can hit you is cases where for example counterfeit items end up in commingled inventory, which is quite rare in my personal experience. It happened only twice—that I know of—despite spending easily $20-30k/year at Amazon.

Re: $118 16TB SSD on Amazon, 4 star reviews mention cuff links and coffee cups

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since Amazons sales, profits continue to grow. They've shown time and again that they don't bother and, apparently, are incompetent enough to fix this shitshow of a bait-and-switch wrt their reviews If you really want to read some comedy, i'd recommend their seller forums - various sellers report fraudulent listings - Amazons response? crickets Only way to fix it: vote with your wallet, give your money someone else.…

There is a good chance that Amazon does care and the fraudsters are able to occasionally get past the countermeasures. Amazon ships a remarkable number of products. If only 10^-4 of them are fraudulent, there will still be quite a few bad products . We'll generally hear about the bad ones with outsized volume.

Seriously, this situation is so rare that it was posted on HN. If this was a common experience, nobody would give a shit.

This posting is obviously fake and anybody that orders this device kinda deserves to be scammed (not really, nobody deserves that, but still... c'mon).

Re: $118 16TB SSD on Amazon, 4 star reviews mention cuff links and coffee cups

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is so prevalent, the question is: why are people shopping at a company intentionally having a go at misleading them?

Because the issue of fake reviews and scam products is blown out of proportion. Amazon remains one of the most convenient digital stores to shop on. I have almost never received a product that was different than what I expected. On the rare occasions that it did, it was because of a misjudgment on my part rather than misleading advertising. I have learned from my experiences.

There's a wide spectrum of 'scam' products on Amazon. The obvious scams, like this, are quickly spotted, but there are other less obvious situations where people may get subpar items and most don't even realize it.

Things like: items sold as new which technically aren't, gray market imports, modified items, quality fakes, items that aren't fake but are misrepresentative of another item, etc. These are all over Amazon, and other marketplaces.

Re: $118 16TB SSD on Amazon, 4 star reviews mention cuff links and coffee cups

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post #34

Heh I just ran across this sort of thing yesterday. A 200+ page book on "how to delete a book from your kindle". Written by an apparently very prominent author with over 100 reviews that are all verified purchases. Some of them actually reference the "content" of this supposed book. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B094YHXZY6?ref_=cm_sw_r_ud_ts_3DFD... I reported it yesterday and it's still up, we'll see what happens.

I just went clicking through recommendations shown on that page.

There's a ton of similar fake books like that on Amazon with titles refering in some way to deleting books from Kindle.

What's the point? People confusing the store search on Kindle with Google, searching for general questions like that and unknowingly buying a book that pops up in search results?

Re: $118 16TB SSD on Amazon, 4 star reviews mention cuff links and coffee cups

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My technique to avoid fraudulent products on Amazon: click on the seller ("Sold by mucaoxikeji") which reveals... "No feedback yet - NEW SELLER" Done ! Only took 2 seconds. It's very simple: I never buy from new sellers, or from those with too few reviews (<100). You do this and honestly you avoid 99% of fraudulent products. The 1% that can hit you is cases where for example counterfeit items end up in commingled inv…

Does Amazon have a policy guaranteeing it won't ship items sourced from commingled inventory with its sellers when you purchase "Ships by and Sold by Amazon.com"?

I heard that you can get items from random small sellers (including counterfeit items and used items being packaged as new) even when you think you are purchasing only from Amazon. I haven't bought anything on Amazon since.

Re: $118 16TB SSD on Amazon, 4 star reviews mention cuff links and coffee cups

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There was an interesting story about Amazon review hijacking a while ago. Here’s a link: https://www.kleinbottle.com/Amazon_Brand_Hijacking.html

interesting story. It seems his page has been restored...

I also noticed klein tools makes a klein bottle opener :)

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