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The Age of PageRank Is Over

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Re: The Age of PageRank Is Over

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Post by freediver »

fnordpiglet wrote: post #259

The way iOS search is done by Kagi is a little creepy. You have to load an extension and allow it the ability to inspect everything. It then intercepts searches and redirects the browser to Kagi. I’m sure it’s what’s necessary to add a search in iOS, but still a sad compromise. Regardless the search results from Kagi seem much less SEO spammy which is nice!

Safari does not allow custom search engines, and this is the only way possible, also used by any other search engine with an iOS Safari extension.

Besides, Kagi Safari iOS extension is full open source: https://github.com/kagisearch/Kagi-Search-for-Safari-iOS

Re: The Age of PageRank Is Over

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Post by dehrmann »

danuker wrote: post #185
fardo wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>It's incredibly refreshing to know that the company providing my search results has an incentive to make things better for _me_ and not a legion of advertisers Cable television and netflix have made it quite clear that payment does not mean “no ads”, it just means “no ads, yet”. It still might be a better alternative in the short term, but the moment growth starts to peak, companies follow where the incentives lead…

Also smartphones and smart TVs.

Even Amazon

Re: The Age of PageRank Is Over

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Post by dylan604 »

smt88 wrote: post #241
dylan604 wrote: post #232

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>which is to create a human-curated whitelist-only search engine. You might be interested in watching the series "Halt and Catch Fire".

I'm not interested. Why would I be? I also don't need fiction to know what a human-curated search engine would be like, because I was using the web in the 90s when we had things like Dmoz.

Well, you can be a curmudgeon and not enjoy someone's recommendation for a decent bit of entertainment, or you can say just politely carry on and be a grouch in the living room of your trashcan, or you could maybe try something new and actually consider watching something you haven't seen yet.

edit: softened the tone oh so slightly

Re: The Age of PageRank Is Over

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Post by irrational »

andyfleming wrote: post #239
fardo wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>It's incredibly refreshing to know that the company providing my search results has an incentive to make things better for _me_ and not a legion of advertisers Cable television and netflix have made it quite clear that payment does not mean “no ads”, it just means “no ads, yet”. It still might be a better alternative in the short term, but the moment growth starts to peak, companies follow where the incentives lead…

I'm a little tired of the rhetoric about Netflix adding ads. It's only on an entry-level account that is subsidized from the normal pricing (IIUC, correct me if I'm wrong). You could argue that they've artificially inflated the price of the normal plan or that it's a slippery slope, but it's not like they've forced ads on the existing plans. I think what's more interesting/concerning/insidious is hidden ad content li…

> It's only on an entry-level account

So far. I imagine they will be expanding it over time.

Re: The Age of PageRank Is Over

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Post by seaman1921 »

booleandilemma wrote: post #83
VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #75

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The blogspam has made Google and Bing/DDG almost completely unusable for technical searches. Go search for something like "postgres cte" and you won't find anything useful until probably halfway down the page. And maybe not at all.

I searched for that (without the quotes) and this was the 2nd result: https://www.postgresqltutorial.com/postgresql-tutorial/postg... The first result was the official documentation. What else are you expecting?

he was expecting nobody to check his BS

Re: The Age of PageRank Is Over

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Post by toomanyusers »

api wrote: post #178
fardo wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>It's incredibly refreshing to know that the company providing my search results has an incentive to make things better for _me_ and not a legion of advertisers Cable television and netflix have made it quite clear that payment does not mean “no ads”, it just means “no ads, yet”. It still might be a better alternative in the short term, but the moment growth starts to peak, companies follow where the incentives lead…

Having the actual user pay is a necessary but not sufficient condition for a user centered product or service. It doesn’t guarantee the company won’t double dip but without a direct economic model nothing is even possible but ads and surveillance.

It strikes me that a company like Kagi should be able to craft a legally enforcable agreement with its customers which expressly forbids the company from selling ads and conducting surveillance.

The agreement could be carefully written by a skilled lawyer to define the things Kagi cannot do, the proof customers must present in order to proceed with a valid lawsuit, and even the maximum damages that the customer may sue for.

In that case, if Kagi was found at some point to be using customer data for these purposes, it could be sued very easily and by many parties.

People are calling for regulation for data privacy. In the meantime, Kagi can create its own regulation it will hold itself to for the benefit of its users, can it not?

Re: The Age of PageRank Is Over

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Post by smt88 »

dylan604 wrote: post #264
smt88 wrote: post #241

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not interested. Why would I be? I also don't need fiction to know what a human-curated search engine would be like, because I was using the web in the 90s when we had things like Dmoz.

Well, you can be a curmudgeon and not enjoy someone's recommendation for a decent bit of entertainment, or you can say just politely carry on and be a grouch in the living room of your trashcan, or you could maybe try something new and actually consider watching something you haven't seen yet. edit: softened the tone oh so slightly

Sorry, I misinterpreted your suggestion as, "This is not a novel idea, and you should watch how badly it goes when someone on this TV show tries the same thing."

I didn't insult you or your suggestion, though. I said I wasn't interested in the show and that it doesn't inform my understanding of the concept.

Why did that hurt your feelings enough to make insulting accusations about my personality and character?

Re: The Age of PageRank Is Over

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Post by anoy8888 »

widdershins wrote: post #18

I've been using Kagi the last few months. I've never had a reason to complain about its search results - they seem to work plenty well enough day to day that I don't really 'notice' them. Like most, I now search reflexively, as an extension of the mind, so I only 'notice' search when it's bad. What really excites me is that is that I'm paying them. That sounds odd, but seriously. It's incredibly refreshing to know th…

Very naive . It just means that in addition to whatever google do with your data , they also charge you money on top of that . When people have power to do things to maximize their gains (selling u ads/ data in addition to charging u ) , expect that it will be done. It is the same in politics. Power corrupts.
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