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Podman Desktop: A Free OSS Alternative to Docker Desktop

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Re: Podman Desktop: A Free OSS Alternative to Docker Desktop

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Recently I started using colima[0], a drop in replacement for Docker Desktop on Mac, and have seen an increase in performance and battery life. You can use all the normal docker and docker compose commands. It does not have a GUI but you can use the Docker extension on VS Code to have an overview of running containers. [0] https://github.com/abiosoft/colima

Replaced Desktop with `colima` as well few months ago. I've been using it daily since then. I did not have any issue, sometimes I just delete / start a instance to upgrade the docker version, it only takes few minutes.

I like the fact that I decide when I upgrade, not Docker Desktop nagging me every week.

Re: Podman Desktop: A Free OSS Alternative to Docker Desktop

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post #47

I have been experimenting with the arm64 windows dev kit, neither docker desktop, podman desktop or rancher desktop had arm64 builds. Installing the amd64 builds did not work either. I was surprised to find out wsl2 now supports systemd https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/systemd-support-i... I was able to install docker normally inside wsl2 and it worked perfectly. No "desktop" app needed. This will be a game…

Podman Desktop will release Windows arm64 binaries if there is a demand for it

Re: Podman Desktop: A Free OSS Alternative to Docker Desktop

#53

Pity it's only available as a tarball or .flatpak. I've never got flatpak to work before, and it doesn't work this time either. :-(

What file format would you expect?

AppImage could work, also making it portable.

Re: Podman Desktop: A Free OSS Alternative to Docker Desktop

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> For personal use I found it great and lighter than Docker Desktop. I don't know what Docker Desktop is doing but on a top end i9 with 128gb of ram it still takes 60 seconds to start and the UI takes forever to do anything it makes Teams look responsive

Are you on Windows? I believe it is using Hyper-V and running containers in a VM. The loading time is probably how long it takes to start the VM.

"Docker Desktop" uses a VM for container execution on all supported OSes - Windows, macOS and Linux - default installs are not running "docker" natively at your local CLI if you are using "Docker Desktop" to run docker, even on Linux.

> https://www.docker.com/blog/the-magic-behind-the-scenes-of-d...

> https://docs.docker.com/desktop/install/linux-install/

> https://docs.docker.com/desktop/faqs/linuxfaqs/#what-is-the-...

"Docker Desktop on Linux runs a Virtual Machine (VM) so creates and uses a custom docker context desktop-linux on startup." I had previously assumed it would be native on Linux, but apparently not. To be clear, this only applies when talking about "Docker Desktop" installations - not the same thing as "docker" etc etc.

I also think the performance is pretty bad, and I've used it on all three OSes at one time or another. I simply never install "Docker Desktop" on Linux typically anyway - it adds so little value over a basic native local docker install there.

The only thing I think "Docker Desktop" is really great at is creating FUD regarding using the alternatives or even plain ole free "docker", but that is probably its primary means of generating revenue for the company - I've seen docker desktop licences get deployed everywhere recently, regardless of the merits. So many users I encounter don't even understand the distinction now between docker/docker-desktop, or that there is one.

Re: Podman Desktop: A Free OSS Alternative to Docker Desktop

#55

Recently I started using colima[0], a drop in replacement for Docker Desktop on Mac, and have seen an increase in performance and battery life. You can use all the normal docker and docker compose commands. It does not have a GUI but you can use the Docker extension on VS Code to have an overview of running containers. [0] https://github.com/abiosoft/colima

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Re: Podman Desktop: A Free OSS Alternative to Docker Desktop

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The problem with podman at the moment (IMO) is version drift. RHEL/Fedora and friends get the latest and greatest (4), Debian/Ubuntu are stuck on 3.x. This isn't a problem with Docker, which has tight control over what is deployed. This means how you use Podman directly or indirectly via tools and plugins may change.

It might be possible to use a Podman machine on Linux as well. ( You may loose performance but could update as soon it's available)

Or use https://software.opensuse.org/package/podman

Re: Podman Desktop: A Free OSS Alternative to Docker Desktop

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I'd just love to know if Docker is ever going to fix the issue where my computer kernel panics when going into hibernation if my macbook is unplugged and docker is running. Had an open, reproducible issue for a quite while that has affected lots of other folks too, but no real recognition from Docker.

Re: Podman Desktop: A Free OSS Alternative to Docker Desktop

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post #34

Echoing others, is there a benefit running this over Docker? I recently setup portainer and Docker on my homelab and had everything running in about 30 min. Is there a benefit to migrate to podman?

The main benefits touted are that Podman can run rootless containers and it doesn’t need a daemon compared to Docker. However those comparisons are less relevant now than they were a while ago because Docker can now run rootless containers and Podman has developed a heap of systemd hooks that effectively use that as the daemon. It does have some good features though, like being compatible with Kubernetes manifests. I…

Is there a portainer equivalent for podman (web based instead of a desktop app)?
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