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Re: Apple to set up first dev center outside of CA in Israel

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Post by guelo »

xenophanes wrote: post #19
guelo wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Comparing Israel to North Korea is a nasty, partisan political statement, not a reasonable part of an HN discussion about Apple.

It might be nasty and political but it is not partisan since both major parties in the US support Israel.

Re: Apple to set up first dev center outside of CA in Israel

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Post by tkahn6 »

guelo wrote: post #21
xenophanes wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Comparing Israel to North Korea is a nasty, partisan political statement, not a reasonable part of an HN discussion about Apple.

It might be nasty and political but it is not partisan since both major parties in the US support Israel.

The definition of partisan has nothing to do with the US political system.

Re: Apple to set up first dev center outside of CA in Israel

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Post by krembo »

By the article the dev center will be located in Matan which is an incredible place located in Haifa. It's location closed to the Technion brings the best brains to work for the dev centers of most of the international enterprises located there. (The Technion institute brought 3 Nobel prize winners in the last 7 years with a yearly budget of about only 200M$)

So it's like the silicon valley except the size. The size of the Matam area is less than 2000ft^2 and in this small area there are dev centers of Intel, IBM, Microsoft, Google, Yahoo, Elbit,NDS, Philips, GE, Zoran and many more. Now, get back 2 lines before to read about the size of the area where all these are located in. And if this isn't incredible then I don't know what is!

Re: Apple to set up first dev center outside of CA in Israel

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Post by guelo »

tkahn6 wrote: post #22
guelo wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It might be nasty and political but it is not partisan since both major parties in the US support Israel.

The definition of partisan has nothing to do with the US political system.

OK, but I still don't see how my comment could be viewed as advocating for any political party.

Re: Apple to set up first dev center outside of CA in Israel

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Post by coolestuk »

guelo wrote: post #5

That's too bad since Israel runs a repressive apartheid regime.

It is truly offensive to what black africans endured under apartheid, to compare Israel with South Africa. My guess is that the people who say such things have never visited Israel and never visited South Africa under apartheid.

'African-American student leaders from a variety of historically black colleges and universities took out full page ads in numerous American college newspapers Thursday, displaying an “Open Letter to Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP),” to convey that they were offended by SJP’s use of the term “apartheid” at recent Israel Apartheid Week events at campuses across the country.'

http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=215811

Ever wonder where a millenium of European anti-semtism disappeared to following 1945? It transmogrified itself into prejudice against Israel.

There are countries that truly are comparable to apartheid (e.g. Saudi Arabia, where non-muslims are not permitted to enter Mecca). But it is always democratic Israel that gets equated with apartheid, not undemocratic, discriminatory Saudi Arabia.

Re: Apple to set up first dev center outside of CA in Israel

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Post by maayank »

krembo wrote: post #23

By the article the dev center will be located in Matan which is an incredible place located in Haifa. It's location closed to the Technion brings the best brains to work for the dev centers of most of the international enterprises located there. (The Technion institute brought 3 Nobel prize winners in the last 7 years with a yearly budget of about only 200M$) So it's like the silicon valley except the size. The size…

By the name I assume you're an Israeli and while it's true that Matam has an high ratio of global corporations per sqm, I think that when people (both in Israel and outside it) think of "the Israeli silicon valley" they think more of Tel Aviv and its surrounding area (i.e. Herzliya). If Apple will purchase Anobit then they will have a beachhead in Herzliya... although two offices, both in Matam and Tel Aviv/Herzliya is pretty common (i.e. Google, IBM, etc.)

Re: Apple to set up first dev center outside of CA in Israel

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Post by guelo »

coolestuk wrote: post #25
guelo wrote: post #5

That's too bad since Israel runs a repressive apartheid regime.

It is truly offensive to what black africans endured under apartheid, to compare Israel with South Africa. My guess is that the people who say such things have never visited Israel and never visited South Africa under apartheid. 'African-American student leaders from a variety of historically black colleges and universities took out full page ads in numerous American college newspapers Thursday, displaying an “Open L…

Palestinians aren't allowed to enter huge portions of the West Bank, including big sections of Hebron where only 500 Jewish settlers live among 300,000 Palestinians. There are whole highways that are Israeli only. Jewish settlers steal private land and then are defended by the IDF as has happened in Nabi Saleh.

One set of rules is enforced on Palestinians and another for Israelis living in the same area. That is the definition of apartheid.

Re: Apple to set up first dev center outside of CA in Israel

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Post by endtime »

maayank wrote: post #26
krembo wrote: post #23

By the article the dev center will be located in Matan which is an incredible place located in Haifa. It's location closed to the Technion brings the best brains to work for the dev centers of most of the international enterprises located there. (The Technion institute brought 3 Nobel prize winners in the last 7 years with a yearly budget of about only 200M$) So it's like the silicon valley except the size. The size…

By the name I assume you're an Israeli and while it's true that Matam has an high ratio of global corporations per sqm, I think that when people (both in Israel and outside it) think of "the Israeli silicon valley" they think more of Tel Aviv and its surrounding area (i.e. Herzliya). If Apple will purchase Anobit then they will have a beachhead in Herzliya... although two offices, both in Matam and Tel Aviv/Herzliya…

As an American who's spent a little time in Israel, when I think of tech and Israel I think of Haifa.

Re: Apple to set up first dev center outside of CA in Israel

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Post by tkahn6 »

guelo wrote: post #27
coolestuk wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is truly offensive to what black africans endured under apartheid, to compare Israel with South Africa. My guess is that the people who say such things have never visited Israel and never visited South Africa under apartheid. 'African-American student leaders from a variety of historically black colleges and universities took out full page ads in numerous American college newspapers Thursday, displaying an “Open L…

Palestinians aren't allowed to enter huge portions of the West Bank, including big sections of Hebron where only 500 Jewish settlers live among 300,000 Palestinians. There are whole highways that are Israeli only. Jewish settlers steal private land and then are defended by the IDF as has happened in Nabi Saleh. One set of rules is enforced on Palestinians and another for Israelis living in the same area. That is the…

'Palestinian' denoting citizenship rather than race. I can 100% assure you that there are Druze and Bedouin checkpoint soldiers.

South African apartheid discriminated based on the race of South African citizens. Israeli only roads because Palestinians are not Israeli. They are Palestinian. The word youre looking for is occupation.

Re: Apple to set up first dev center outside of CA in Israel

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Post by idan »

There's a high density of good hardware engineering talent here in Israel, and specifically flash memory expertise (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SanDisk and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-Systems).

Given Apple's voracious appetite for solid-state storage, I am surprised this didn't happen sooner.

Only thing I'm not sure of is why this is interesting news, particularly to the wider, non-Israeli HN community. Feels like a case of "OMG LOOK ISRAEL IN THE TITLE".

edit: Oh, just now noticing the inevitable politics in the comment thread. Le Sigh.

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