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Re: Meta lays off 11,000 people

#931

Fantastic. I just got laid off from my (non-Meta) job, and now I have to compete with thousands of other software engineers. I suppose I knew that the cushy absurd-salary-days of software engineering had to come to a close at some point, but I guess I was just hoping it would happening after I retired.

Just said you worked for Meta in your resume and you just being laid off. Bang! Instant hire.

Re: Meta lays off 11,000 people

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post #690

I'm sorry, but honestly fuck Meta. Conducting psychological experiments on users without consent, and enabling psyops from organizations like Cambridge Analytica, is enough for me to never use their services. I hope they implode as a company. I happily said no when people from meta approached me on LinkedIn.

Not saying it makes it okay, but every company in existence does this to some extent. Everyone does A/B testing with the intent to alter user behavior (aka psychology) to increase their profits.

A/B testing (which is getting users to respond/react to a UX event, and choosing which outcome is more suited to the business) is considerably different from "can we manipulate users up front, to perceive or react to things assertively and programmatically, even if against their interests?"

Re: Meta lays off 11,000 people

#933
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I worked at Facebook when covid first hit. Zuckerburg treated everyone in the company very, very well. There was a blanket "don't worry about performance, take care of your families" guarantee that honestly was an enormous help. The thing that particularly struck me though was the way he handled contract workers like (some of) the kitchen staff, cleaners, etc. These people don't work for Facebook and he had zero obli…

I agree with your overall point, that Facebook employees have been very well taken care of, but: > There was a blanket "don't worry about performance, take care of your families" guarantee that honestly was an enormous help. Yet now he is firing people based on those same performance reviews. Plenty of people I know at Facebook feel betrayed because of exactly this.

When your CEO's most famous quote is "They 'trust me.' Dumb fucks," you shouldn't be surprised what happens when you trust him.

Re: Meta lays off 11,000 people

#934
post #690

I'm sorry, but honestly fuck Meta. Conducting psychological experiments on users without consent, and enabling psyops from organizations like Cambridge Analytica, is enough for me to never use their services. I hope they implode as a company. I happily said no when people from meta approached me on LinkedIn.

Take my downvote. "Psychological experiments" on users is what every company; user and market research. Enabling "psyops" is simply building a platform; this isn't the first platform that his been misused or scraped for other purposes. You get spam robo dialers? It wasn't from meta... etc. etc. etc.

Re: Meta lays off 11,000 people

#935

> I got this wrong, and I take responsibility for that. As always with these things, I wonder what taking responsibility actually means in practice. Businesses usually try to find ways to correct for major failures in decision making. In the case of Zuck, given his ownership, does anything actually happen or change? I'm sure his net worth has been reduced by changes to Meta's share price, but he was a multi-billionai…

He is paying a pretty decent severance package for the US as far as I understand.

Re: Meta lays off 11,000 people

#936

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am particularly sad about current state of Meta. Regardless of what people think of Facebook and Zuck, he was unapologetically a hacker. I visited FB campus few times and emphasis on hacker culture everywhere was just immensely delightful. He knew the value of good hacker and raised bar for the compensation across the entire industry. Ship your code today was absolutely refreshing. Number of open source projects th…

> he was unapologetically a hacker Huh? Like Gates and Musk, he's not even a highly skilled developer, even less a hacker.

HAH, downvoted to -4 for writing this on "hacker" news.

Re: Meta lays off 11,000 people

#938
We’re probably going to see a decline in market comp / offer competitiveness as the flood of big tech layoffs hits the job market and startups feed on the offerings from big companies.

Re: Meta lays off 11,000 people

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So, after Twitter and Meta layoffs there will be around 15,000 people looking for the job. In one moment. With other layoffs it can be counted over 20,000 people IMHO. Will this over flood the market and bring expectations and salaries down?

Yes, because they will be replaced with offshore labor or visa workers.
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