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Where are tech jobs heading in the United States and globally? Who (or what industry) is absorbing all these folks? I think the current landscape merits one of these prediction style threads on HN.

Still mostly staying in Silicon Valley. Plenty of companies are still hiring. Laid off Meta employees with good skills will not have problems finding another job in the same area.

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I'm sorry, but honestly fuck Meta. Conducting psychological experiments on users without consent, and enabling psyops from organizations like Cambridge Analytica, is enough for me to never use their services. I hope they implode as a company. I happily said no when people from meta approached me on LinkedIn.

Not saying it makes it okay, but every company in existence does this to some extent. Everyone does A/B testing with the intent to alter user behavior (aka psychology) to increase their profits.

Nope, not every, really such an ignorant statement.

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post #690

I'm sorry, but honestly fuck Meta. Conducting psychological experiments on users without consent, and enabling psyops from organizations like Cambridge Analytica, is enough for me to never use their services. I hope they implode as a company. I happily said no when people from meta approached me on LinkedIn.

Starting around 2016 the New York Times decided that coverage had to be negative: https://twitter.com/KelseyTuoc/status/1588231892792328192

Consider how this may have helped you to develop your opinion.

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post #690

I'm sorry, but honestly fuck Meta. Conducting psychological experiments on users without consent, and enabling psyops from organizations like Cambridge Analytica, is enough for me to never use their services. I hope they implode as a company. I happily said no when people from meta approached me on LinkedIn.

You seem very sure of what you know, and very confident about how the people working at Meta think and act. Do you have any direct experience? Or know anyone who works there?

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Sorry for all the people who’ve lost their jobs, but I’m excited to see the awesome world-changing stuff they’ll make now that they’re not spending their time building FB/Instagram.

Do you think that great, world-changing, folks go to Facebook to sit on a big salary? if they were going to do something awesome they probably wouldn't have been working there. now, if google lay off a lot of people... that would be different

If you want to work on interesting massive-scale infra problems there are few better places than Meta.

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post #690

I'm sorry, but honestly fuck Meta. Conducting psychological experiments on users without consent, and enabling psyops from organizations like Cambridge Analytica, is enough for me to never use their services. I hope they implode as a company. I happily said no when people from meta approached me on LinkedIn.

Starting around 2016 the New York Times decided that coverage had to be negative: https://twitter.com/KelseyTuoc/status/1588231892792328192 Consider how this may have helped you to develop your opinion.

They gave specific examples of negative things that Facebook has done. This is a pretty shallow dismissal of their criticism, even if their comment is a bit heavy-handed.

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> But these measures alone won’t bring our expenses in line with our revenue growth

Interesting, so the cust cuttings aren't about being sustainable or avoiding loss, but to meet future growth expectations?

Couldn't they just have like sustained a break even point until economy recovers?

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> I got this wrong, and I take responsibility for that. As always with these things, I wonder what taking responsibility actually means in practice. Businesses usually try to find ways to correct for major failures in decision making. In the case of Zuck, given his ownership, does anything actually happen or change? I'm sure his net worth has been reduced by changes to Meta's share price, but he was a multi-billionai…

> As always with these things, I wonder what taking responsibility actually means in practice. Remember a few years ago when people were asking "Why can't people just say they made a mistake and own up to it instead of shifting blame?" Now that people are taking responsibility for mistakes publicly the response is "Yes, but what does that mean?" Taking responsibility means just that. It means saying you fucked up and…

Nothing short of seppuku streamed live via Oculus will redeem the honor of a business guy putting his honest level best effort behind some business things that didn't make as much money as he hoped.

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I agree. Two very different business responses between Musk and Zuck. I almost feel sorry for Zuck as we are witnessing meltdowns of two large companies in real-time. Musk just continues to dig his own grave… I feel bad for the ppl losing their jobs but that is a very generous severance package.

Zuck did it himself too. No one told him to go all-in on VR. No one. All he had to do was tackle payment and maybe cloud. He first went for crypto and then is in the process of failing with VR. Meta really needs to be in the cloud business.

Screw that, I think the meta verse will pan out. Zucc will rise from the ashes.

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As a non-tech guy who follows the tech scene: 87000 people to run Facebook sounds a little ridiculous. These tech companies sounds like colleges these days where the number of administrators has grown 10X and the amount of teachers has stayed the same. Use your money to hire people that directly contribute to your product. Use profits to "do good" after.

I left Facebook in March after having worked there for seven years.

It was always a struggle to hire enough engineers to accomplish my team's goals, and it only got worse as time went on. We didn't have a terrible on-call or terrible team morale, we just tended to lose out to teams working on more visible projects. We could have doubled our headcount and still had a backlog of impactful work we couldn't get to.

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