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Launch HN: Metlo (YC S21) – Open-source software for securing your APIs

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Re: Launch HN: Metlo (YC S21) – Open-source software for securing your APIs

#21

Beginner question: do you secure websockets? Also what's the diff between what you do and cloudfilt

Websockets -- not yet, no. We might do it in the next couple months if more people ask for it. The main business logic should be similar but there are some differences in the way web socket traffic behaves which will require some tweaks to our anomaly detection.

Re: diff between us and Cloudfilt -- Cloudfilt seems like a primarily bot-protection tool while we help find all your endpoints, rank them by risk, classify the sensitive info they expose, test against OpenAPI specs (or generate them based on your traffic), find and protect against anomalous requests, etc…

Re: Launch HN: Metlo (YC S21) – Open-source software for securing your APIs

#22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Currently we only have AMI's in US Regions, although Metlo should work anywhere... Let me know which region you want to deploy in and I can make an AMI there right away :)

us-east-2 plz:)

Here you go! https://backend.metlo.com/deploy/aws?region=us-east-2

Re: Launch HN: Metlo (YC S21) – Open-source software for securing your APIs

#24
I'll play devil's advocate for a second since I've got experience in this space.

My biggest issue with most fuzzing tools has always been the high rate of false positives. When I worked at Uber, we intentionally never exposed these tools to dev teams because it was too "noisy" to bother with. Most of the alerts were false positives 90%+ of the time and we eventually ignored them (even though were the security team).

How do you avoid that alert fatigue trap? Do you have a plan to ensure a high signal-to-noise ratio?

Re: Launch HN: Metlo (YC S21) – Open-source software for securing your APIs

#26
post #24

I'll play devil's advocate for a second since I've got experience in this space. My biggest issue with most fuzzing tools has always been the high rate of false positives. When I worked at Uber, we intentionally never exposed these tools to dev teams because it was too "noisy" to bother with. Most of the alerts were false positives 90%+ of the time and we eventually ignored them (even though were the security team).…

Hey! Yes, false positives are are a problem that we’re hyper aware of, and a big challenge with most security tools. We have less of a problem with this than other tools for a few reasons :)

1) We're a bit different from a standard fuzzing tool, instead of generating traffic to send to an API we find vulnerabilities by analyzing real production/staging traffic. This gives our models a better understanding of how the API actually works. Although we might add a fuzzer at some point!

2) We split out very high signal vulns (https://demo.metlo.com/vulnerabilities) from vulns/attacks that we detect with our ML models that may have some false positives (https://demo.metlo.com/protection)... Different classifications give you a better way to triage any alerts.

3) We're putting a lot of effort into making our models really good, we're not comfortable with our tool having high false positive rates so when there's a model that is returning 90%+ false positives were aware of that and don't even add it :)

Thanks for the feedback and playing devils advocate!

Re: Launch HN: Metlo (YC S21) – Open-source software for securing your APIs

#28
I track 31 API Security vendors (not including the big guys like Imperva and Vericode.) This approach is going to disrupt a space that has taken in just over a billion dollars in funding in the last two years. Well done!

Any security tool that helps devs has to go to market through opensource in my opinion.

Re: Launch HN: Metlo (YC S21) – Open-source software for securing your APIs

#29

I track 31 API Security vendors (not including the big guys like Imperva and Vericode.) This approach is going to disrupt a space that has taken in just over a billion dollars in funding in the last two years. Well done! Any security tool that helps devs has to go to market through opensource in my opinion.

Thanks! (Selfishly) We really hope so! :)

If you have any feedback or advice btw, pls email me at shri@metlo.com! I'd really appreciate it! :)

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