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My full statement regarding DOOM Eternal

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Re: My full statement regarding DOOM Eternal

#82
Wow I vaguely remember that reddit thread and I think I felt a bit confused about it. Seemed like such an OTT reaction to something that should be handled internally - and then for a public statement you would keep it short, sweet and indirect (i.e. 2 paragraphs where you don't blame anyone except maybe yourself and some section of the company).

Very glad Mick made this thorough post.

Re: My full statement regarding DOOM Eternal

#83

This Marty person seems like a full on psychopath. I always wonder with stories like these how the lawyers feel after a day’s work. Like, “hi daddy, how was work?” - “oh it was fantastic, we strong armed an independent musician into getting screwed over by our client, an ambitious psychopath!” -hugs-

Parent comment might seem flip, but it’s actually a real and important point. There are quite a number of people with anti social personality disorder within corporate management structures. Marty has all of the hallmark signs.

I think the real sad part is that Mick wasn’t able to identify Marty’s personality type at the outset, and seemed to keep falling for his lies, gaslighting, and manipulation, and under estimated the degree to which someone like him would throw someone under the bus at a moments notice.

Mental heal of corporate America definitely needs more examination, because with this type of wealth and power, it often ruins lives both big and small.

Re: My full statement regarding DOOM Eternal

#84

This Marty person seems like a full on psychopath. I always wonder with stories like these how the lawyers feel after a day’s work. Like, “hi daddy, how was work?” - “oh it was fantastic, we strong armed an independent musician into getting screwed over by our client, an ambitious psychopath!” -hugs-

I blame everything but the lawyers. A functional and just legal system depends on both parties having effective legal representation. Our current system falls far short of that ideal but I never feel that lawyers are the issue.

It's the system itself, as well as the Zenimaxes and Martys of the world, that I blame.

Re: My full statement regarding DOOM Eternal

#85

A lot of this feels a little "glutton for punishment". Like, they keep f*cking with him yet he continues to interact..

Half of it is that, and half of it is that it is standard procedure for contract artists to not be caught standing in a court of law . Nobody wants to hire people who sue.

> Nobody wants to hire people who sue

so why bother ever paying one?

Re: My full statement regarding DOOM Eternal

#86

This Marty person seems like a full on psychopath. I always wonder with stories like these how the lawyers feel after a day’s work. Like, “hi daddy, how was work?” - “oh it was fantastic, we strong armed an independent musician into getting screwed over by our client, an ambitious psychopath!” -hugs-

Corporate lawyers with feelings are selected out very early.

Re: My full statement regarding DOOM Eternal

#87
post #68

In case we need another example to why Reddit moderation needs... moderation: Attempting to remove the Reddit post myself I’d had enough. I grew tired of having the respect I afforded Marty, and his employer, with attempts to resolve the dispute privately, get turned into a giant waste of time, effort and money. The Reddit post had been up for 15 months and attempts to resolve the dispute with Marty had gotten me now…

Feel bad for him, the Reddit mod really needs to be taken to task for bending over to appease Marty.

Re: My full statement regarding DOOM Eternal

#88

This is really disappointing to read. Mick's soundtrack was a huge part of making DOOM 2016 and Eternal such great experiences. His talk at GDC where he goes into some of the process of creating the soundtrack is fantastic, so much fun to see the creativity he brought to the game's music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4FNBMZsqrY The next DOOM will be a little less DOOMy without him.

The soundtrack for Eternal was the only thing that felt special about this sequel IMO. Doom 2016 was and is amazing though, instant classic including the congenial soundtrack. I’m even less excited about any further sequel now. Too bad John Carmack didn’t want to put up more with the business side of things. Zenimax are slowly becoming the worst of all the gravedigger big gaming companies.

Zenimax became a part of Microsoft soon after Doom Eternal. Don't know if the management changes after that help or not.

Re: My full statement regarding DOOM Eternal

#89
post #87
post #68

In case we need another example to why Reddit moderation needs... moderation: Attempting to remove the Reddit post myself I’d had enough. I grew tired of having the respect I afforded Marty, and his employer, with attempts to resolve the dispute privately, get turned into a giant waste of time, effort and money. The Reddit post had been up for 15 months and attempts to resolve the dispute with Marty had gotten me now…

Feel bad for him, the Reddit mod really needs to be taken to task for bending over to appease Marty.

If the mod was personally threatened with a lawsuit could you blame him? I think that is a very likely possibility…
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