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My full statement regarding DOOM Eternal

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Re: My full statement regarding DOOM Eternal

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Horror stories like this are the main reason I only ever bill by the hour and invoice biweekly. Like, sure, I'll change things to meet requirements but I'm not going to work for free or go without pay for months. It's also much easier to fire bad clients or to stop working when an invoice goes unpaid for too long. The only downside to this approach is when salaried subordinates don't understand this dynamic and rack…

One thing that surprised me was milestone billing with approvals, but moving on to the next milestone without getting approval on previous ones.

I agree with you, this project structure sounds… much worse than T&M billing, but if I were going to take on a contract in this structure I would have a simple rule of “I won’t work on the next milestone, without getting approval on the prior one” (for something like this, where the milestones are pretty small, maybe I’d be willing to work one milestone ahead).

But I’d absolutely use the schedule pressure as a tool to get them to care about approvals. Because, from the described contract structure, what incentive does the client have to give timely approvals or rejections? None!

Re: My full statement regarding DOOM Eternal

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Out of curiosity, has there ever been a gag agreement that wasn't put forth by an absolute asshole to cover up their asshole behavior? Like are they ever used for good?

By their very nature, gag agreements tend not to go public. Therefore, we're probably not going to get any stories of "good" gag agreements in the news.

Re: My full statement regarding DOOM Eternal

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post #15

Is it known why this response comes out now, 2-3 years after the “DOOM Eternal OST Open Letter” to which it responds? Waiting until any related NDAs time out?

Mick goes into detail about how he's been pursuing a settlement, and resorted to posting this after years of stalling from Zenimax.

Re: My full statement regarding DOOM Eternal

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post #16

A lot of this feels a little "glutton for punishment". Like, they keep f*cking with him yet he continues to interact..

Pre-OST it sounds like he kept interacting in hopes that they would pay him on time. For the OST, I suppose a combination of professional decency and the fact that his name was already attached to the release kept him going. Mick Gordon's been a household name thanks to his legendary DOOM(2016) soundtrack, so I'm not surprised he was trying to keep it up. A musician can really live or die by their name recognition an…

> the fact that his name was already attached

couldn't he have sued on the basis his name was attached to it?

Re: My full statement regarding DOOM Eternal

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A lot of this feels a little "glutton for punishment". Like, they keep f*cking with him yet he continues to interact..

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Perhaps, but he has provided actual evidence that conflicts with Marty's public open letter (late date of contract finalization; work on soundtrack excluding him far prior to being near the deadline).

Re: My full statement regarding DOOM Eternal

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Unfortunately, abusing artists in media companies has become the norm.

Hollywood and the Music industry set the example for how to extract maximum value from an artist while keeping them desperate for money. Unfortunately, those Hollywood behaviours seem to have jumped to game development.

It's disgusting.

Re: My full statement regarding DOOM Eternal

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I had a real feeling Mick got the shaft over this one. A real shame, his OST would have been absolutely badass.

What a waste of time for everyone involved, they certainly won't find anyone better for scoring the next ID games.

I hope he lands on his feet, whatever he does next.

Re: My full statement regarding DOOM Eternal

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post #15

Is it known why this response comes out now, 2-3 years after the “DOOM Eternal OST Open Letter” to which it responds? Waiting until any related NDAs time out?

Seems obvious to me. Making a public statement is always going to be the option of last resort for a professional. Seems like Mick did everything he could and finally did this as his last ditch attempt to at least rescue his reputation.

Re: My full statement regarding DOOM Eternal

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I had a real feeling Mick got the shaft over this one. A real shame, his OST would have been absolutely badass. What a waste of time for everyone involved, they certainly won't find anyone better for scoring the next ID games. I hope he lands on his feet, whatever he does next.

This forum is full of people with amnesia over how many id Tech people are assholes.
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