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Z-Library Aftermath Reveals the Feds Seized Dozens of Domain Names

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Re: Z-Library Aftermath Reveals the Feds Seized Dozens of Domain Names

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Post by anxiously »

tyingq wrote: post #2

I've personally used sites like this as a sort of protest to what universities and authors did to the textbook market. You used to be able to buy used physical textbooks for classes at reasonable prices. They took advantage of the shift to digital by forcing arbitrary changes in edition numbers, solely to sell more books, or by requiring obscure, low-volume books, often written by the professor leading the class. Wit…

I used to borrow a friends book and photo copy the entire book. It wasn’t ideal but it was often an order of magnitude cheaper than buying those crappy books.

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Post by vegetablepotpie »

boxed wrote: post #4
psychphysic wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would have been a godsend when I was still academic. This and sci-hub. The way they eviscerated the service makes clear that in general we need more robust web services. Tor is not ideal for this, onions are excellent and fill their niche really well. But we need something simpler here.

What is needed is a strong government for the people, by the people. Without that, it really doesn't matter what tech you can cobble together.

That doesn’t happen because most people can’t or won’t participate in government. This is because many government meetings are held during the day, during working hours, usually in places far from the individuals affected.

The people who do show up are independently wealthy, retirees, and people being paid to represent an organization. Representitive government doesn’t, and cannot represent the people.

Re: Z-Library Aftermath Reveals the Feds Seized Dozens of Domain Names

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Post by roel_v »

WastingMyTime89 wrote: post #6
dtx1 wrote: post #5

I don't understand how zlibrary can still be up though. If the glowies can seize the domains can't they also seize the servers hosting the data?

They are outside the US jurisdiction. The full archive is also not that big (~30TB) so they are plenty of mirrors.

"The full archive is also not that big (~30TB) so they are plenty of mirrors. "

Like where? Zlibrary wasn't open for 'official' mirrors in the first place, and the 'unofficial mirror' hasn't had any seeders for its torrents since at least the seizure of the domains last week.

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Post by JustSomeNobody »

roel_v wrote: post #13
WastingMyTime89 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are outside the US jurisdiction. The full archive is also not that big (~30TB) so they are plenty of mirrors.

"The full archive is also not that big (~30TB) so they are plenty of mirrors. " Like where? Zlibrary wasn't open for 'official' mirrors in the first place, and the 'unofficial mirror' hasn't had any seeders for its torrents since at least the seizure of the domains last week.

There's a person who comments on some of the z-lib posts and they are the ones who archived z-lib (and some other sites). If I can find it, I'll edit this comment.

Here. Her name is Anna.

http://annas-blog.org/blog-introducing.html

http://pilimi.org/

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Post by qwerty456127 »

synergy20 wrote: post #9
psychphysic wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would have been a godsend when I was still academic. This and sci-hub. The way they eviscerated the service makes clear that in general we need more robust web services. Tor is not ideal for this, onions are excellent and fill their niche really well. But we need something simpler here.

aren't tor and onion pairs,why one not ideal while another excellent? confused.

Because some people go through TOR to browse regular non-onion web sites and their experience is not always pleasant.

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Post by ahelwer »

So since this was done at the DNS level, not the hosting level, does this mean if you're running a pi-hole or AdGuardHome you can add some extra redirects for zlib to its actual IPs? I guess you could also just hardcode these in your computer's host file but then you have to do it for every device on your LAN. Assuming their IPs change somewhat frequently, is there any way to do this in an auto-updating way?

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Post by jhbadger »

tyingq wrote: post #2

I've personally used sites like this as a sort of protest to what universities and authors did to the textbook market. You used to be able to buy used physical textbooks for classes at reasonable prices. They took advantage of the shift to digital by forcing arbitrary changes in edition numbers, solely to sell more books, or by requiring obscure, low-volume books, often written by the professor leading the class. Wit…

Oh, absurd prices for textbooks is not something that came from the digital shift. I had textbooks that were over $100 when I was an undergraduate. And that was in the late 1980s!

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Post by tyingq »

jhbadger wrote: post #18
tyingq wrote: post #2

I've personally used sites like this as a sort of protest to what universities and authors did to the textbook market. You used to be able to buy used physical textbooks for classes at reasonable prices. They took advantage of the shift to digital by forcing arbitrary changes in edition numbers, solely to sell more books, or by requiring obscure, low-volume books, often written by the professor leading the class. Wit…

Oh, absurd prices for textbooks is not something that came from the digital shift. I had textbooks that were over $100 when I was an undergraduate. And that was in the late 1980s!

Right, but there was a used textbook market that usually worked for me.

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Post by WastingMyTime89 »

roel_v wrote: post #13
WastingMyTime89 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are outside the US jurisdiction. The full archive is also not that big (~30TB) so they are plenty of mirrors.

"The full archive is also not that big (~30TB) so they are plenty of mirrors. " Like where? Zlibrary wasn't open for 'official' mirrors in the first place, and the 'unofficial mirror' hasn't had any seeders for its torrents since at least the seizure of the domains last week.

Zibrary is/was essentially a different frontend for libgen content. If you look for libgen archives, it is indeed mirrored.
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