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Learn HTML + CSS with a text adventure course

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Re: Learn HTML + CSS with a text adventure course

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Post by hdjjhhvvhga »

f3b5 wrote: post #2

Hey HN! I'm Fabian, the CTO of Frobocode, and I'm pretty frustrated with the state of affairs of coding courses. 10 years ago, MOOCS promised to give us really good educational content that everybody can use to learn programming. They never delivered. It's 2022 and we still don't have anything resembling A Young Lady's Illustrated Primer. What we need is to get out of our lecture-focused educational mindset, which ev…

Hey Fabian!

To quote a fellow HN-er:

"No offense but do make a shareware version. Demo if you're younger. No way I'm paying for something like this based only on marketing copy."

I'd add to this: give me why reason anyone would buy something like this based only on marketing copy. Personally I'd consider such a person extremely gullible.

Re: Learn HTML + CSS with a text adventure course

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Post by asicsp »

f3b5 wrote: post #2

Hey HN! I'm Fabian, the CTO of Frobocode, and I'm pretty frustrated with the state of affairs of coding courses. 10 years ago, MOOCS promised to give us really good educational content that everybody can use to learn programming. They never delivered. It's 2022 and we still don't have anything resembling A Young Lady's Illustrated Primer. What we need is to get out of our lecture-focused educational mindset, which ev…

There are a few gaming based resources:

* https://www.codingame.com/start

* https://checkio.org/

* https://codepip.com/

* https://codingfantasy.com/games

There are also interactive ones that are project based, for example: https://scrimba.com/learn/htmlandcss

Good luck for your course!

Re: Learn HTML + CSS with a text adventure course

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Post by f3b5 »

alberth wrote: post #6
f3b5 wrote: post #2

Hey HN! I'm Fabian, the CTO of Frobocode, and I'm pretty frustrated with the state of affairs of coding courses. 10 years ago, MOOCS promised to give us really good educational content that everybody can use to learn programming. They never delivered. It's 2022 and we still don't have anything resembling A Young Lady's Illustrated Primer. What we need is to get out of our lecture-focused educational mindset, which ev…

Unsolicited feedback... As a typophile, the body/H3 text (P/H3 tag) where "letter-spacing" set to "-1px" and "-2px" respectively, makes the website content difficult to read since each letter doesn't have enough room to breath. (Love the idea of the website btw)

Thanks for pointing that out, the p/h3 letter spacing really was a bit too tight - fixed now

Re: Learn HTML + CSS with a text adventure course

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Post by distcs »

I wish you luck but I know this is not for me. Sorry for the downer. Not really a fan of these alternative teaching methods that add a lot of fluff and layers on what could otherwise be a very simple activity.

I think a simple tutorial that just teaches you how to use a native editor or download a good one and start typing HTML code in it is a much better learning environment.

Re: Learn HTML + CSS with a text adventure course

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Post by f3b5 »

WA wrote: post #10

Why do you devalue this course with shitty AI-generated images? They give off a horror vibe and since the details are all wrong, I get the impression that details don't matter in your course. But in coding, it's all about the details (edge cases).

This is actually something we're not super sure about ourselves yet. I think AI art is quite interesting and has a lot of potential for use cases like this course (where we can affordably create hundreds of highly specific illustrations). Of course, the tradeoff is that you end up with illustrations that give off an uncanny vibe, for example the face of the monkey in our hero.

My greatest fear is to make the course too generic when using stock art images. Do you know a (low-budget) way of getting many interesting illustrations?

Re: Learn HTML + CSS with a text adventure course

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Post by f3b5 »

hdjjhhvvhga wrote: post #11
f3b5 wrote: post #2

Hey HN! I'm Fabian, the CTO of Frobocode, and I'm pretty frustrated with the state of affairs of coding courses. 10 years ago, MOOCS promised to give us really good educational content that everybody can use to learn programming. They never delivered. It's 2022 and we still don't have anything resembling A Young Lady's Illustrated Primer. What we need is to get out of our lecture-focused educational mindset, which ev…

Hey Fabian! To quote a fellow HN-er: "No offense but do make a shareware version. Demo if you're younger. No way I'm paying for something like this based only on marketing copy." I'd add to this: give me why reason anyone would buy something like this based only on marketing copy. Personally I'd consider such a person extremely gullible.

That makes sense - our plan is to make part of the first chapter available as a demo as soon as it's out

Re: Learn HTML + CSS with a text adventure course

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Post by brandall10 »

distcs wrote: post #15

I wish you luck but I know this is not for me. Sorry for the downer. Not really a fan of these alternative teaching methods that add a lot of fluff and layers on what could otherwise be a very simple activity. I think a simple tutorial that just teaches you how to use a native editor or download a good one and start typing HTML code in it is a much better learning environment.

I'm unsure about this for many people... by far my most involved course @ UCSD was 3d graphics programming w/ OpenGL. The professor had some delightfully zany ideas, including creating a torture chamber w/ extra credit for doing things like like building a gently swinging above head lamp to illuminate weapons on a wall.

I read the associated 500 page book cover to cover twice and various sections up to 4-5 times before completion and had done nearly all the extra credit for all assignments. I finished with a 112% final grade over the 10 weekly assignments. And this was not uncommon, the prof mentioned something like 30% of the students received an A+ and over 80% had an A.

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