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App Store on iOS 14.6 sends every tap you make in the app to Apple

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Post by phendrenad2 »

tinus_hn wrote: post #16
filoleg wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was about to say, this is about as unsurprising and reasonable as Google Search listening to what you type into the search bar and which links on the search results page you click.

Many sites, probably including Google Search, also monitor where you move your mouse cursor, even if you’re not clicking. A lot less reasonable and more surprising.

It's still entirely reasonable. People often hover over things and get confused about animations, and so seeing where the cursor goes is essential to notice this.

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Post by heavyset_go »

digitaltrees wrote: post #46
Nullabillity wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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What is malicious about monitoring use to provide a better product in service of users?

Did you clearly ask the users if you can do it? If not, there's probably a reason why not, because users wouldn't like it if they found out they were being recorded.

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Post by phendrenad2 »

Vt71fcAqt7 wrote: post #38

I don't understand people still hanging on to the fiction that Apple is some sort of bastion of privacy. Do they know that google pays Apple "an estimated $8-12 billion"[0] to be default search and as a result track almost all iPhone users' searches? If that's not "selling your data" I don't know what is. [0] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/25/technology/apple-google-s...

This is like complaining that your soundproof apartment isn't giving you the right level of privacy because when you stand on a soapbox in the town square and shout "I wear pink underwear" everyone knows what color your underwear are. If you want privacy, why not, you know, use the privacy features? (Like chat messages, which are NOT sent to Google).

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Post by aurora72 »

CharlesW wrote: post #36

It's interesting that the researchers assumed turning off the transmission of device analytics would also turn off the transmission of all app analytics, whether from Apple or third parties. I also wish they would've tried Lockdown Mode, at least.

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Re: App Store on iOS 14.6 sends every tap you make in the app to Apple

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

beders wrote: post #24

We use LogRocket to record all interactions with our front-ends and it's awesome for trouble shooting and also invaluable for our product managers. They can see where users are struggling with the app and where extra-guidance is necessary. I'm assuming many many many other apps and web pages are doing the same thing. Nothing to see here.

That you find it useful doesn't make it not an invasion of privacy.

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Post by smoldesu »

yesBut00 wrote: post #37
mensetmanusman wrote: post #31

After iOS 16 Apple asks for ‘analytics’ to improve iOS. It is disingenuous of them to use the word ‘Tracking’ for everyone else and ‘experience improving’ for themselves.

I bought an Apple device. Did not sign up to be anyone else’s payday. I want Apple to improve their devices. Don’t care if anyone else benefits from it. Really frustrating to live in a country that wants forced socialization if their is opportunity to make money off me, but otherwise I’m just a cost center. In no way does my use of an Apple device act as an open door for anyone else. I’m not interested in technology…

> In no way does my use of an Apple device act as an open door for anyone else.

Sure, as long as your definition of "anyone else" excludes the NSA, FIVE EYES, China, anyone distributing Pegasus, Akamai and the rest of Apple's contractors.

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Post by smoldesu »

dangus wrote: post #19

Unless this person shows us Settings > Privacy & Security > Analytics & Improvements, the only thing I can conclude is that they left the setting on and they’re confusing third party app tracking controls with Apple’s analytics setting.

They literally say in the body of the first post, verbatim "(data usage & personalized ads are off)"

If the "only thing" you can conlcude is user error, you must be unfamiliar with the insane amount of ambient telemetry iOS/MacOS collects even when disabling analytics (OCSP ring a bell?)

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Post by smoldesu »

tinus_hn wrote: post #14
TheLoafOfBread wrote: post #8

Apple iOS is turning into an Android, but without a headphone jack.

Hate to break it to you but a few years after Apple made this daring move, almost all Android manufacturers have followed suit.

Android manufacturers also started beveling their phone corners after Apple made it popular, not that it made the phones easier to hold or easier to manufacture. It might be hard to imagine, I know, but sometimes Apple makes the wrong decision.
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