It's about time we made some social network legislation akin to tobacco/gambling restrictions.
TikTok’s greatest asset isn’t its algorithm, it’s your phone
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Re: TikTok’s greatest asset isn’t its algorithm, it’s your phone
#22I'm finally in a place where the only website I religiously check is HN. Because of it's nature, for me, it never takes up more than a few minutes every couple of hours. It took hard work to get there. I use Nextdns to block domains of websites and apps when I realize I spend too much time on them. Could I just allowlist domains, sure, and sometimes I do that when I need to look at something on Reddit for instance. B…
I feel completely the opposite. HN has become quite an echo-chamber. Diverse views are not celebrated and encouraged. I usually and deliberately poke popular opinions to get a good discussion out of it and it has been disappointing.
>> I usually and deliberately poke popular opinions to get a good discussion out of it and it has been disappointing.
Perhaps it's apparent on some level to your audience that you're doing this to raise some sort response, not because you have a strong affinity for a particular position? The last thing I want to do is gorge on the junkfood emotion of false outrage.
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#23I'm finally in a place where the only website I religiously check is HN. Because of it's nature, for me, it never takes up more than a few minutes every couple of hours. It took hard work to get there. I use Nextdns to block domains of websites and apps when I realize I spend too much time on them. Could I just allowlist domains, sure, and sometimes I do that when I need to look at something on Reddit for instance. B…
I feel completely the opposite. HN has become quite an echo-chamber. Diverse views are not celebrated and encouraged. I usually and deliberately poke popular opinions to get a good discussion out of it and it has been disappointing.
> Diverse views are not celebrated and encouraged.
Can you elaborate? Are they downvoted, or just not presented in the first place?
Re: TikTok’s greatest asset isn’t its algorithm, it’s your phone
#24Even if TikTok were suddenly wiped off every phone on the planet, a competitor would take its place. TikTok simply takes advantage of people's desire to be entertained and apathy over privacy issues.
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Re: TikTok’s greatest asset isn’t its algorithm, it’s your phone
#25I'm finally in a place where the only website I religiously check is HN. Because of it's nature, for me, it never takes up more than a few minutes every couple of hours. It took hard work to get there. I use Nextdns to block domains of websites and apps when I realize I spend too much time on them. Could I just allowlist domains, sure, and sometimes I do that when I need to look at something on Reddit for instance. B…
Damn man, I was just thinking about how annoying it is that I can't find anything fun to do on my phone. I just check HackerNews and painstakingly slowly type comments in on here at 20 WPM. I can get a tiny glance at the world news through news.google, but that site gets worse every time I load it up. I tried paying for Apple News, but it was all low-quality clickbait.
What were some of the things you had to wean yourself off?
I can occasionally find an OK game to play for a little while, but the quality is really awful on phone games. Very frustrating considering my phone is probably 4x as powerful as a Nintendo Switch.
I love to read books, but can't find enough good ones to keep it up. I'm not a big TV guy and especially hate YouTube.
Re: TikTok’s greatest asset isn’t its algorithm, it’s your phone
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
I feel completely the opposite. HN has become quite an echo-chamber. Diverse views are not celebrated and encouraged. I usually and deliberately poke popular opinions to get a good discussion out of it and it has been disappointing.
> Diverse views are not celebrated and encouraged. Can you elaborate? Are they downvoted, or just not presented in the first place?
Yea sure. I won't give specific examples, otherwise the discussion will get derailed into bickering about extreme specifics to overthrow overall argument.
Try to see which comments are flagged and analyze why should they be flagged because of politics, spam, rudeness, ideology, not-factual, bigotry, etc. I'd say a significant portion of them are completely legitimate or interesting, just doesn't fit the ideology/politics here.
It's also possible to that I've changed, may be taken a red pill, I try to have a super sensitive self-introspection and try to objectively analyze what went wrong in flagged or downvoted comments.
Anyways, it's been mostly nice and to be honest, addicting. I still continue to visit HN, but will probably dial it back way down and just read weekly newsletters and avoid exposing myself to extreme-ideological positions here.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
I feel completely the opposite. HN has become quite an echo-chamber. Diverse views are not celebrated and encouraged. I usually and deliberately poke popular opinions to get a good discussion out of it and it has been disappointing.
> Diverse views are not celebrated and encouraged. Can you elaborate? Are they downvoted, or just not presented in the first place?
He's full of beans, man. This site loves contrarian views, so long as they're even slightly supported by facts or anecdata.
The main thing that gets downvoted is angry tirades without evidence, and it happens to most political views/religious views no matter what side they're on.
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#28I'm finally in a place where the only website I religiously check is HN. Because of it's nature, for me, it never takes up more than a few minutes every couple of hours. It took hard work to get there. I use Nextdns to block domains of websites and apps when I realize I spend too much time on them. Could I just allowlist domains, sure, and sometimes I do that when I need to look at something on Reddit for instance. B…
I feel completely the opposite. HN has become quite an echo-chamber. Diverse views are not celebrated and encouraged. I usually and deliberately poke popular opinions to get a good discussion out of it and it has been disappointing.
If your position is rational and well presented and curious conversation (e.g. no hoaxes or 2nd hand information) than just post it. That it is not celebrated seems an emotional response -why should people celebrate any position here?- Unless you feel upvotes/downvotes are the measure of a comment.
Re: TikTok’s greatest asset isn’t its algorithm, it’s your phone
#29"The medium is the message." - McLuhan, Understanding Media 1964
Re: TikTok’s greatest asset isn’t its algorithm, it’s your phone
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
I feel completely the opposite. HN has become quite an echo-chamber. Diverse views are not celebrated and encouraged. I usually and deliberately poke popular opinions to get a good discussion out of it and it has been disappointing.
If your position is rational and well presented and curious conversation (e.g. no hoaxes or 2nd hand information) than just post it. That it is not celebrated seems an emotional response -why should people celebrate any position here?- Unless you feel upvotes/downvotes are the measure of a comment.
It's easy to get lots of upvotes. Just post praise and self-reinforcing comments and you'll get boatload upvotes. Don't care, ultimately, it is the information that goes into the brain matter that I want to benefit from.