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FTX Appears to Have Stopped Processing Withdrawals, On-Chain Data Show

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Re: FTX Appears to Have Stopped Processing Withdrawals, On-Chain Data Show

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I'm not pro-crypto in general, but ftxfoundation.org funds work I think is really important and would be sad to see collapse.

Another billionaire that wants to launder their reputation will come along in no time and fill the void.

Disagree: SBF got into finance in the first place to earn money to donate.

Re: FTX Appears to Have Stopped Processing Withdrawals, On-Chain Data Show

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I don't really get what you are talking about. Any sane custodial system has "hot" funds from where customers withdrawals are processed from. When the "hot wallet" drops too low, it is refilled from "cold storage" which is high security offline storage, and usually way slower to get funds out of because humans are involved in the process. If business is going as usual, customers don't see anything, because hot wallet…

How long should it take to get funds from a cold wallet to a hot wallet? Hint: if it's more than 1 block (~10mins) you're either incompetent or fraudulent

Moving from cold to hot wallets in an environment with regulatory requirements, redundancy, multiple partial keyholders, and offsite storage could easily take days to weeks and require scheduling access to the physical vault holding the cold storage. You're conflating hot and warm storage - warm can replenish hot but cold requires physical access to somewhere ideally unrelated to where day-to-day operations run.

Re: FTX Appears to Have Stopped Processing Withdrawals, On-Chain Data Show

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Unlike traditional finance, all this is on-chain, so you can trivially look it up. https://etherscan.io/address/0x7abe0ce388281d2acf297cb089cae... FTX seems to be processing withdrawals normally. For the life of me, I can't understand why journalists love to speculate instead of doing a 5-second search on EtherScan.

Withdrawal halt confirmed: https://twitter.com/tier10k/status/1590035482221633546

Re: FTX Appears to Have Stopped Processing Withdrawals, On-Chain Data Show

#125
post #98

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I don't really get what you are talking about. Any sane custodial system has "hot" funds from where customers withdrawals are processed from. When the "hot wallet" drops too low, it is refilled from "cold storage" which is high security offline storage, and usually way slower to get funds out of because humans are involved in the process. If business is going as usual, customers don't see anything, because hot wallet…

How long should it take to get funds from a cold wallet to a hot wallet? Hint: if it's more than 1 block (~10mins) you're either incompetent or fraudulent

Xapo, one of the biggest cold wallet firms in the world, has a security feature that you can request where their people fly on a private jet to meet you personally and confirm face to face that you indeed are the one making the request to move funds from their cold wallet.

Re: FTX Appears to Have Stopped Processing Withdrawals, On-Chain Data Show

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Here's a dune query for the last 3 hours of erc20 transfers from the main FTX withdrawal hot wallet (0x2faf487a4414fe77e2327f0bf4ae2a264a776ad2): > https://dune.com/queries/1142206/1950606

Spoiler alert: There are plenty: https://etherscan.io/address/0x2faf487a4414fe77e2327f0bf4ae2...

We put together a quick dashboard showing the drop in outgoing transactions https://makerdojo.io/public/dashboards/JO6U9whjdL8DRvefKMAoK...

[Disclaimer: I'm one of the co-founders of MakerDojo]

Re: FTX Appears to Have Stopped Processing Withdrawals, On-Chain Data Show

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Yeah talk about a brutal move. Made my estimation of CZ increase, what a shark

Yeah, but why wouldn't he want to sell his hundreds of millions of dollars worth of FTT before crashing the price? Isn't that a bit strange?

I'm guessing they sold as much as they could before the announcement, but regardless of the theoretical money value i don't think there was actual hundreds of millions of liquidity so using this stack to wipe out a competitor is probably the most effective way of using it

Re: FTX Appears to Have Stopped Processing Withdrawals, On-Chain Data Show

#128

Even if FTX has stopped withdrawals, it does not necessarily mean they are insolvent. But remember, no smoke without fire. Like all other financial institutions, they can process only certain amount of withdrawals in a time frame, limited by their banking partners and so on. Currently their are under enormous pressure, as their competitor Binance has decided to dump very large amount of $2B FTT token they received as…

> Even if FTX has stopped withdrawals, it does not necessarily mean they are insolvent.

Update, FTX is insolvent: https://twitter.com/cz_binance/status/1590013613586411520

Re: FTX Appears to Have Stopped Processing Withdrawals, On-Chain Data Show

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> Even if FTX has stopped withdrawals, it does not necessarily mean they are insolvent. Listen to yourself.

If the ATM Cash Machine stops withdrawals because it's out of money it doesn't mean that the bank which owns it is insolvent. Even if you go to a bank branch, large withdrawals ($100k+) need to be announced days in advance, they will not give you the money on the spot.

That's not a good analogy at all. FTX doesn't need to load a Brink's truck with physical cash and send it to various accounts, unlike an ATM machine.

This is closer to you writing a check and it bouncing not because you don't have enough money in your account but because your bank doesn't have enough money to settle the transaction.

Re: FTX Appears to Have Stopped Processing Withdrawals, On-Chain Data Show

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> Even if FTX has stopped withdrawals, it does not necessarily mean they are insolvent. Listen to yourself.

I’m still trying to decide if stopping withdrawals is smoke, or is the fire.

The cryptocons will assure us that it's actually unicorn farts.
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