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Leaked documents: Ugandan government expects explosion in Ebola cases

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Re: Leaked documents: Ugandan government expects explosion in Ebola cases

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Post by thrwawy4privcy »

mschuster91 wrote: post #10
_djo_ wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was handled well by global public health authorities, with education campaigns, targeted vaccinations, early warning, treatment, and growing immunity in the most at-risk populations.

Additionally, most of the most-at-risk population has lived through the AIDS horror. A good gay friend of mine roughly summarized it as "we gays know how bad diseases can get, and fuck it my dating life even after 2 years of pandemic is not as important as is my life". Once it was clear that MSM were (once again) a high-risk group, they all went back to either reducing contacts or at least wearing condoms. In contras…

As a bisexual man I think the LGBT community is getting far too little credit for how they reacted to this. Men getting vaccinated essentially saved the world from more spread at a very critical time.

It wasn't just personal responsibility and willingness to get vaccinated and reduce number of partners. Gay men shouted from the rooftops at public health authorities to get them to step up testing, treatment, and vaccination campaigns very early, when many doctors were ignorant, unable or unwilling to take it seriously.

Re: Leaked documents: Ugandan government expects explosion in Ebola cases

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Post by dopidopHN »

kramerger wrote: post #16
pelorat wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And the only reason it spreads is due to lack of education.

Is there a particular program or degree that makes me immune? Because multiple members of Doctors Without Borders died in the previous outbreak.

They should have had worked harder in schools. I thought the message was out by this point

Re: Leaked documents: Ugandan government expects explosion in Ebola cases

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Post by Silverback_VII »

exhilaration wrote: post #4

The headline is scary but #1 Ebola isn't airborne and #2 it's super deadly which means it kills before it really has a chance to spread widely.

I don’t know if you have read some of the tweets but it seems that ebola can remain dormant in some of the recovered individuals and then be transmitted(sexually in this case) years latter.

Re: Leaked documents: Ugandan government expects explosion in Ebola cases

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Post by _jal »

georgeburdell wrote: post #18
mschuster91 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Additionally, most of the most-at-risk population has lived through the AIDS horror. A good gay friend of mine roughly summarized it as "we gays know how bad diseases can get, and fuck it my dating life even after 2 years of pandemic is not as important as is my life". Once it was clear that MSM were (once again) a high-risk group, they all went back to either reducing contacts or at least wearing condoms. In contras…

I’m glad the community was able to find a solution, and luckily monkey pox was not inherently deadly, but they did not comply with some efforts to mitigate the disease, particularly contact tracing https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/S-F-all-but-give...

Contact tracing in the Covid context has worked horribly everywhere in the US, as far as I know, outside of more or less defined communities where penalties could attach. And even there is mostly failed when they didn't.

Did I miss an instance where it worked well enough to be worth the effort?

Add in the fact that the gay community has reasons to be less than thrilled with medical disclosure of this sort and I'm not the least bit surprised.

Re: Leaked documents: Ugandan government expects explosion in Ebola cases

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Post by benreesman »

throwaway920102 wrote: post #15
exhilaration wrote: post #4

The headline is scary but #1 Ebola isn't airborne and #2 it's super deadly which means it kills before it really has a chance to spread widely.

I mean it could evolve to be airborne in the wild or in a research lab doing intentional gain of function research (a practice for which funding was temporarily halted by Obama) and hybridization much like has been done at BSL-4 facilities worldwide unchecked including by EcoHealth alliance with bat coronaviruses via US funding at the WIV prior to the Covid outbreak in Wuhan. https://www.science.org/content/article/n…

Why is parent getting downvoted? The lab leak theory is pretty mainstream these days.

And gain of function research is 1: real 2: fucking insane and 3: a plausible way we would have a true captain trips style pandemic.

Re: Leaked documents: Ugandan government expects explosion in Ebola cases

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Post by uoaei »

throwaway920102 wrote: post #15
exhilaration wrote: post #4

The headline is scary but #1 Ebola isn't airborne and #2 it's super deadly which means it kills before it really has a chance to spread widely.

I mean it could evolve to be airborne in the wild or in a research lab doing intentional gain of function research (a practice for which funding was temporarily halted by Obama) and hybridization much like has been done at BSL-4 facilities worldwide unchecked including by EcoHealth alliance with bat coronaviruses via US funding at the WIV prior to the Covid outbreak in Wuhan. https://www.science.org/content/article/n…

Ebolavirus and coronavirus are very, very different. There is little in the way of comparison, transmissibility being only one of many differences.

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Post by cmrivers »

The outbreak in Uganda is troubling, but a forecast that goes out 6+ months is silly. No professional infectious disease modeler will forecast out more than a few weeks because the trajectory of the outbreak changes in response to interventions and behaviors.

Re: Leaked documents: Ugandan government expects explosion in Ebola cases

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Post by kspacewalk2 »

kramerger wrote: post #16
pelorat wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And the only reason it spreads is due to lack of education.

Is there a particular program or degree that makes me immune? Because multiple members of Doctors Without Borders died in the previous outbreak.

Basically, having universal or near-universal access to modern sanitation is the "program". If you're not in a community that has this, being a member of Doctors Without Borders is insufficient as a guard against getting infected. Conversely, having running water and flush toilets as the norm makes it far less likely for dieases like ebola to spread even among non-members of Doctors Without Borders.

So, while "lack of education" is not the right diagnosis here, lack of basic amenities certainly is.

Re: Leaked documents: Ugandan government expects explosion in Ebola cases

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Post by spywaregorilla »

cmrivers wrote: post #27

The outbreak in Uganda is troubling, but a forecast that goes out 6+ months is silly. No professional infectious disease modeler will forecast out more than a few weeks because the trajectory of the outbreak changes in response to interventions and behaviors.

That sounds... wrong? What if the 6+ month forecast assuming no interventions is useful to compel an intervention, and the 2-3 week one is not?
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