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Post by NavinF »

vbezhenar wrote: post #287
yunohn wrote: post #237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love HN threads where the complainer is knowingly using an old device on power mode, while complaining about performance… all while the responder is using a custom de-googled niche ROM and claiming somehow it works flawlessly. I always wonder how non-HNers use such software, if even the dedicated people are struggling.

iPhone SE is an extremely powerful phone. AFAIR it uses iPhone 6S CPU. iPhone 7 CPU beat Intel Core i7700K in some benchmarks, just to put a comparison. Not sure how much degraded battery affects it. I recently got my iPhone 8 degraded because of battery and honestly I didn't notice anything. Even my old iPhone 4S is a little beast. I remember playing Asphalt racing game. It pushed it to 60 FPS and its graphics was s…

> iPhone 7 CPU beat Intel Core i7700K in some benchmarks

Ehhh that's a >5 year old CPU. I wouldn't describe it as "extremely powerful" even on a phone.

Anecdotally, going from an iPhone 8 to a 13 pro max was a night and day difference. Not just because the CPU was noticably faster, but because the 120Hz display makes everything more responsive. Sure you don't need that hardware for a chat app but unless some product guy forces the issue, devs aren't even gonna notice fps dropping below 120 because most of them don't use ancient phones.

Re: Signal Introduces Stories

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Post by user764743 »

RunSet wrote: post #150
tb_technical wrote: post #139

Signals existence was too inconvenient for oppressive governments/law enforcement, so instead they've been subverted.

https://getsession.org/ * Doesn't require users to provide a phone number. * Doesn't use centralized servers. Hopefully Session will stay legit for a while. Just when I get most of my contacts to use Signal, Signal moves to embed a cryptocurrency in the app and starts pushing Storytime. https://www.stephendiehl.com/blog/signal.html

F-Droid list them as having anti-features "the upstream source code is not entirely free" - how are we supposed to know if it does what it says it does if it's proprietary?

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Post by jraph »

sasattack wrote: post #276
e12e wrote: post #173

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Otoh, maybe a small company like signal is easier to completely subvert by Cia, nsa, Mossad than meta is?

Both tor and signal are funded By one or another branch of the American intelligence community. If you want more info i recommend googling "signal radio free Asia" It's original function was to allow CIA agents posing as reporters for the CIA mouthpiece called Radio Free Asia to be able to report their discoveries. I use the app but in many ways we are actually providing cover for the military and state intelligence…

> If you want more info i recommend googling "signal radio free Asia"

Could you provide a link? All I can find with DDG is a reddit post and irrelevant stuff and I don't feel like using Google.

> tor which is openly a project of naval intelligence

Again, do you have a source?

That's the first time I encounter these claims.

Re: Signal Introduces Stories

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Post by [deleted] »

waynesonfire wrote: post #250
OkayPhysicist wrote: post #234

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What makes it impossible? Naively I would think that if you have a secure 1:1 communication protocol, then you can send N*(1:1) secure messages to a group of N people. To solve the "fake group message" problem where an adversarial member of the group sends different messages to different members of the group, or delays the message to some members, the protocol could simply allow for a 2nd level "vouch" message to be…

havn't thought about it too much, but seems like merkle tree may be able to tackle this problem.

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Post by ehPReth »

boraoztunc wrote: post #168
dont__panic wrote: post #107

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I wish they would improve the app UI instead of focusing on features like this. Compared to other apps I use regularly, Signal feels kind of clunky -- the share dialog takes forever to load from another app compared to Telegram or Messages. The app feels like it's harassing me every single day to update. On open, the app often takes a few seconds of loading in my chats. Makes me wonder what core userbase Signal think…

Same here, moved to Telegram. Still use Signal though (my mother still contacts me there) but the product needs work.

I wish I could disable those big animated emotes; they don’t always reflect what I’m feeling…

Also, less super compressed images/videos. I get they have to save space but sheesh they look like garbage

Re: Signal Introduces Stories

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Post by prox »

mynameisash wrote: post #180
MonkeyMalarky wrote: post #33

That's cool but everyone in my family that I convinced to use Signal just stopped using it because it was their default SMS app. Now it's not.

This is the boat I'm in. My version of Signal already updated and encouraged me to switch SMS out of the app, which I did. Now I'm sort of split between these two apps; my family is, for the moment, still using Signal for both, but I expect they'll soon enough be forced to use Android Messages, at which point we'll have little reason to continue using Signal. Once my immediate family is out, I expect it'll be a domin…

They stop using it because they can’t sms? Why is that… no connection to wifi?

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Post by tptacek »

anigbrowl wrote: post #335
hackmiester wrote: post #317

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I'm sorry, but that's just not true. Stickers are widely used in the group chats I am in. I myself have created multiple sticker packs since the sticker feature launched. Before that, several people mentioned they thought Signal looked like a shitty app because it "didn't even have stickers." Ultimately there was no shortage of boring, cryptographically-secure apps. Signal is filling demand for an app that is both se…

Taking it up after it became available is not the same thing as asking for it. Sorry but this a frivolous cosmetic thing compared to security issues like Signal's ongoing linkage to phone numbers.

Signal's "ongoing linkage to phone numbers" is one of their more powerful security features.

Re: Signal Introduces Stories

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Post by Fervicus »

corytheboyd wrote: post #267

Of course my first reaction was "I hate this" but then I thought about it and whatever I don't care at all. I downloaded the update and it's a new tab. They don't force it on you at all. They very very clearly state that you can opt-out and how to do it. This was tastefully done, which is fresh air in the world of social media crapware.

Yeah that was my first reaction as well and I am still not sure how I feel about Signal pursuing this, but I appreciated the opt out option. I also appreciated that they talked about opting out early in the blog post before diving deeper into the mechanics.

Re: Signal Introduces Stories

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Post by m12k »

kiwijamo wrote: post #252
m12k wrote: post #239

I'm glad to see the app is actively being worked on, even if the changes aren't ones I care about personally. Here's my wishlist for Signal: - Edit previously sent messages like Telegram, Discord and Slack lets you do. I'm so damn tired of a big ugly "This message was deleted" if I try to fix a typo/DYAC - A better way to sync up clients, so when I log in on a computer and verify with my phone, it lets me sync over s…

Curious about the session expiry. I can't remember the last time I had to re-login. Do you only use the Desktop client occasionally?

I use it daily on the M1 Air that I work on, and probably 1-3 times a month on my desktop gaming PC. I never need to re-login on my Mac, and on my PC it feels like 50/50 odds whether I'll have to log in again or not - it's infuriating.
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