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Re: ActivityPub

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I'm afraid so, and you've been posting so many unsubstantive and/or flamebait comments that were going to have to ban you unless you stop. We've already asked you once. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

This isn't moderating, Daniel - it's curating.

So do what we both know you enjoy about this job since you don't seem to do the other aspects of it.

Re: ActivityPub

#13

How do algorithmic feeds work in the fediverse? Are there already services out there the last slurp in a ton of activitypub feed data and help surface content to users that they will enjoy? Some of the centralized social media services do this extremely well after you've been using them for awhile (YouTube in particular)

It's funny but I definitely wouldn't have put YT on that list. Even after attempting to "train" it by removing from the feed stuff I'm not interested in, it's still very random and comically irrelevant at times.

Re: ActivityPub

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How do algorithmic feeds work in the fediverse? Are there already services out there the last slurp in a ton of activitypub feed data and help surface content to users that they will enjoy? Some of the centralized social media services do this extremely well after you've been using them for awhile (YouTube in particular)

This solutionism is kind of a little a lot problematic. Expecting a single pat answer that utterly projects & reduces all possible wins into a single minded "this is how it will work" confines imagination & potential (just by the pointed ask alone), reduces a complex place we can keep exploring & winning & growing, into an overbearing consumerist expectation that all answers are known, all is worked out, and that there is some total answer thats gonna drop in our laps.

Synthetic feeds of recommendations is an open topic. How much data one is willing to send upstream, as inputs to one's recommender engine, is as much of a topic as how such things would work, what kind of activitypub feeds the engine would emit.

Right now there's nearly nothing & (while I dont agree) a vast amount of the userbase considers this lack to be a feature: a distinguishing characteristic that makes this network human and not aggressively eye-ball stealing machine & greedy. Human connection & old fashioned following people you run into is a win for organic matter & innate connection over pre-programmed ways to insure more eyeball-time.

That philosophy battle aside: there's infinite possibilities here. The way the question is phrased expects there is a singular clear way. You probably should not sign up for a fediverse instance! You dont seem like a fit.

Re: ActivityPub

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I wonder what other cool app (other than Mastodon) has been implemented based on this protocol.. 99% of the app out there is built based on centralized and traditional protocol, it's pretty cool to see more app built based on this protocol with new use cases

Check out this article from the other day. It gives a nice info-graphic showing a lot of the major players in Activity-pub. No shortage of options :) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33472622

that was a great infographic that I hadn't seen before. thanks!

Re: ActivityPub

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How do algorithmic feeds work in the fediverse? Are there already services out there the last slurp in a ton of activitypub feed data and help surface content to users that they will enjoy? Some of the centralized social media services do this extremely well after you've been using them for awhile (YouTube in particular)

I'm sure you could do that but, thus far, it seems like algorithmic feeds are rejected wholesale by the fediverse communities.

Yes:

"Does Mastodon or the Fediverse use ads or trackers or algorithms or blockchain or cryptocurrency or anything annoying like that?

No.

There are no ads, no trackers, the timeline shows all posts from everyone you follow in chronological order, and there is no blockchain/cryptocurrency/web3.

Fediverse servers connect to each other using traditional sustainable methods that email and websites have used for decades."

https://fedi.tips/mastodon-and-the-fediverse-beginners-start...

Re: ActivityPub

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure you could do that but, thus far, it seems like algorithmic feeds are rejected wholesale by the fediverse communities.

Yes: "Does Mastodon or the Fediverse use ads or trackers or algorithms or blockchain or cryptocurrency or anything annoying like that? No. There are no ads, no trackers, the timeline shows all posts from everyone you follow in chronological order, and there is no blockchain/cryptocurrency/web3. Fediverse servers connect to each other using traditional sustainable methods that email and websites have used for decades.…

Yeah, I'm sure the Fediverse doesn't use any "algorithms."

Re: ActivityPub

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How do algorithmic feeds work in the fediverse? Are there already services out there the last slurp in a ton of activitypub feed data and help surface content to users that they will enjoy? Some of the centralized social media services do this extremely well after you've been using them for awhile (YouTube in particular)

This solutionism is kind of a little a lot problematic. Expecting a single pat answer that utterly projects & reduces all possible wins into a single minded "this is how it will work" confines imagination & potential (just by the pointed ask alone), reduces a complex place we can keep exploring & winning & growing, into an overbearing consumerist expectation that all answers are known, all is worked out, and that the…

You seem to be shadowboxing a non-existent opponent. If anything, their reference to service*s* suggests that they do not expect a singular clear way.

Re: ActivityPub

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How do algorithmic feeds work in the fediverse? Are there already services out there the last slurp in a ton of activitypub feed data and help surface content to users that they will enjoy? Some of the centralized social media services do this extremely well after you've been using them for awhile (YouTube in particular)

Centralized algorithms for feeds are generally rejected by the community so far. Some projects such as Mastodon provide users the ability define filters of their raw chronological feed. People can also use and follow hashtags.

Re: ActivityPub

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How does ActivityPub make sure posts on other hosts are "real"?

I would have gone for a pub/priv key solution instead and supported tree structured comments and real private messaging.

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