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Early stages of Google Docs support in the Ladybird browser

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Re: Early stages of Google Docs support in the Ladybird browser

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Post by senko »

nonethewiser wrote: post #37
pipeline_peak wrote: post #26

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It seems like it will only work on SerenityOS, which seems like it explicitly does not support third party software. Someone correct me if I'm wrong about that, but that seems like an indication that it wont be much more than a toy. EDIT: I was wrong, this doesn't just run on SerenityOS. Guess it's not limited to being a toy. Thank you everyone for the correction.

It already works on other systems. Quoting from [0]:

> So far, we’ve seen it running on Linux, macOS, Windows (WSL) and Android. The Linux version is definitely the most tested.

[0] https://awesomekling.github.io/Ladybird-a-new-cross-platform...

Re: Early stages of Google Docs support in the Ladybird browser

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Post by dang »

mananaysiempre wrote: post #4

Link is to a Nitter instance. Even though I prefer to use it as well, it should probably be pointed to the original Twitter instead? For deduplication purposes if nothing else.

Yes. Changed now from https://nitter.1d4.us/awesomekling/status/158971149967250227.... It's fine to include alternate links in comments, but for the submission URL, please follow the site guideline: "Please submit the original source. If a post reports on something found on another site, submit the latter."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Early stages of Google Docs support in the Ladybird browser

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Post by dang »

Related:

Github.com on Ladybird, new browser with JavaScript/CSS/SVG engines from scratch - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33273785 - Oct 2022 (1 comment)

Ladybird: A new cross-platform browser project - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32809126 - Sept 2022 (473 comments)

Ladybird: A truly new Web Browser comes to Linux - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32014061 - July 2022 (8 comments)

Ladybird Web Browser - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31987506 - July 2022 (2 comments)

Ladybird Web Browser – SerenityOS LibWeb Engine on Linux - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31976579 - July 2022 (2 comments)

Re: Early stages of Google Docs support in the Ladybird browser

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Post by anderspitman »

ramesh31 wrote: post #16

*Kind of. More power to them, but modern browsers are one of the most advanced and sophisticated pieces of software in the world, probably right next to an OS. WebKit and Chromium respectively have had billions of dollars and decades of development poured into them. The current duopoly state of the market reflects that fact, unfortunately.

Firefox on Linux doesn't even run a decent number of sites well for me, I assume because they're primarily tested on Chrome. And Chromium often chokes on Google's own voice.google.com web app. Ladybird doesn't have to be perfect to be useful or interesting.

Re: Early stages of Google Docs support in the Ladybird browser

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Post by senko »

UltraViolence wrote: post #31

I'm so impressed with the LadyBird / SerenityOS browser engine! It took Mozilla more than 25 years to write Firefox's HTML engine and here are a couple of geniuses who write a web browser from scratch in just a few years!! Including Javascript (however, as of yet lacking video and WebGL). And Google's Chromium is simply a convoluted mess, chockful with vulnerabilities and memory corruption errors.

I'm a fan of Andreas and love seeing the progress here, but let's be fair: it didn't take Mozilla 25 years to write a HTML engine. It took Netscape 3 years to build the world's best (at the time) browser from scratch ('94 to '97).

Chromium's HTML engine derives from an open source KHTML engine, written for the KDE project.

Re: Early stages of Google Docs support in the Ladybird browser

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Post by djbusby »

Y_Y wrote: post #28
ramesh31 wrote: post #16

*Kind of. More power to them, but modern browsers are one of the most advanced and sophisticated pieces of software in the world, probably right next to an OS. WebKit and Chromium respectively have had billions of dollars and decades of development poured into them. The current duopoly state of the market reflects that fact, unfortunately.

Of course WebKit and Blink (Chromium) are both just shitty descendants of the beautiful (and foss) KHTML from Conqueror.

*Konqueror

https://apps.kde.org/en-gb/konqueror/

Re: Early stages of Google Docs support in the Ladybird browser

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Post by ossusermivami »

UltraViolence wrote: post #31

I'm so impressed with the LadyBird / SerenityOS browser engine! It took Mozilla more than 25 years to write Firefox's HTML engine and here are a couple of geniuses who write a web browser from scratch in just a few years!! Including Javascript (however, as of yet lacking video and WebGL). And Google's Chromium is simply a convoluted mess, chockful with vulnerabilities and memory corruption errors.

Not trying to diminish this impressive work from Andrew, but I would believe as the saying says those last (ongoing since a browser is never finished) 20% is what take 80% of the time to make a browser.
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