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Re: Twitter Now Asks Some Fired Workers to Please Come Back

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Post by theonething »

qeternity wrote: post #52
kevinh wrote: post #43

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Depending on the thread it can go either way. There are large contingents on both sides as Musk is quite divisive.

Yeah fair enough, two sides to everything. Anecdotally I feel like I see a lot of Elon hate, but that could just be my decency bias due to Twitter drama and layoffs.

I'm seeing the same thing here on HN. People are frothing at the mouth to hate on him. Wild speculation all over.

Case in point, the HN trope that he is an idiot and doesn't know anything about technology and just takes credit for brilliant engineers' work. I laid out solid evidence that is not true, quoting top of the field scientist and engineers' assessment of his technical knowledge and skills. The only response I get is from RavingGoat (username kind of checks out) claiming Elon must have paid these people to say these things with no evidence whatsoever.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33504228

I know this is cliche here, but in this case, it really seems like Redditors have invaded this space.

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Post by [deleted] »

Tempest1981 wrote: post #134
wilg wrote: post #131

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I have noticed several people in my life seeming to vastly overestimate the cost of getting healthcare through the healthcare.gov exchanges. If you leave your job, you can just do that. It’s much cheaper than the COBRA price, which I think people are looking at. For many people, it shouldn’t be a huge problem to get insurance this way. (I would still prefer single-payer!)

> healthcare.gov exchanges. It’s much cheaper Interesting... I've heard it's the opposite, price-wise.

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Re: Twitter Now Asks Some Fired Workers to Please Come Back

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Post by sgerenser »

TrueGeek wrote: post #162
imustbeevil wrote: post #159

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Yes. The plan my employer had in Hawaii was $700/mo for pretty average coverage. On Healthcare.gov the best possible plan I could get, $0 deductible, full coverage, etc, was $510/mo. I think the difficulty is that most people who have employer healthcare have never checked healthcare.gov because they didn't need to, but it's hard to keep seeing people perpetuate this idea that hasn't been true for over a decade.

Ah, you might not have kids? I just went through the sign up process. All the plans were about the same for me on Healthcare.gov: $1,400 a month with no coverage until after a $14k deductible. This is for a family of four in Georgia.

I suspect you're also putting in your current income, rather than something much lower that you'd be experiencing if you just lost your job.

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Post by ceejayoz »

Tempest1981 wrote: post #134
wilg wrote: post #131

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I have noticed several people in my life seeming to vastly overestimate the cost of getting healthcare through the healthcare.gov exchanges. If you leave your job, you can just do that. It’s much cheaper than the COBRA price, which I think people are looking at. For many people, it shouldn’t be a huge problem to get insurance this way. (I would still prefer single-payer!)

> healthcare.gov exchanges. It’s much cheaper Interesting... I've heard it's the opposite, price-wise.

A lot of folks compare the amount they pay in premiums against it, which is a mistake, because that's almost always only part of the cost; employers tend to pay all or some.

I ran into someone who genuinely thought their health insurance ran $100/month, because that's how much got deducted in their paycheck.

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Post by cbtacy »

InsOp wrote: post #57
allenrb wrote: post #46

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It varies. I’ve been a SpaceX (and thus Elon) fan since they were unsuccessfully launching Falcon 1’s. EM’s willingness to share information with the space fan community won him a lot of admirers. I was certainly willing to overlook many of his other failings as a result. That’s become harder in the last few years and practically impossible in 2022. At this point, I am desperately hoping for SpaceX to get Starship/Su…

what are the other things he is screwing up?

"Cybertruck"

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Post by ceejayoz »

TrueGeek wrote: post #128
imustbeevil wrote: post #104

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Healthcare.gov. We've had that system for 12 years. I've never had employer healthcare, it was way more expensive than private insurance in Hawaii, which anyone can get and you auto-qualify for enrollment if you change jobs or move. https://www.navapbc.com/insights/twelve-years-of-healthcare-...

Are you saying you’ve declined your employer sponsored healthcare and just signed up at healthcare.gov and it ended up being cheaper?

I do this, because I need one of the higher-end plans with the low cap on out-of-pocket expenses. It'd be more expensive to take my work's; cheaper on monthly premium, but my family OOP max would be $14k instead of $4k.

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Post by rtsil »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #151
rtsil wrote: post #92

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The best employees is no employee.

Reducing expenses probably looks nice in quarterly reports.

The irony is the goal of taking Twitter private was precisely to avoid the tyranny of quarterly reports.

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Post by jrochkind1 »

wilg wrote: post #131
boplicity wrote: post #53

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The U.S. healthcare system traps people in companies, for fear of losing access to reliable healthcare. A system that was completely independent from employers would be much more beneficial to employees. Plus, it would save huge administrative costs for private companies. This would especially benefit small companies, but, really, it would make the job of running any company much easier.

I have noticed several people in my life seeming to vastly overestimate the cost of getting healthcare through the healthcare.gov exchanges. If you leave your job, you can just do that. It’s much cheaper than the COBRA price, which I think people are looking at. For many people, it shouldn’t be a huge problem to get insurance this way. (I would still prefer single-payer!)

I'm curious what prices you are seeing and considering no big deal; because I'm not sure if you're seeing different prices than I've seen, or just have a different threshold for what would be a huge problem for most people?

I've seen like $600/month for an individual, and this is just kind of ok probably good enough insurance (with a non-trivial deductible). For a family, even more, $1800 or more a month. Again for not great insurance. For me that'd already be a significant problem, but maybe not for an ex twitter engineer? Or maybe if you are a single person in your 20s (or I forget, do they still charge different for different ages post obamacare?), or in a different state than me, it's a lot cheaper?

Re: Twitter Now Asks Some Fired Workers to Please Come Back

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Post by jrochkind1 »

Does this seem a surprising mis-step for a guy who has run multiple companies before, even succesful ones? Or I guess maybe this is actually pretty typical, you can't lay off that much of your company without making some big mistakes you try to reverse? (But still... this isn't Musk's first rodeo, right? Why does it seem like he doens't know what he's doing?)
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