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Twitter Now Asks Some Fired Workers to Please Come Back

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Post by theonething »

watwut wrote: post #156
theonething wrote: post #147

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I wonder if all these commenters blaming Musk for screwing up Twitter and the layoff realize that the pre-Musk Twitter had already planned layoffs. > Before Musk took over the site, Twitter had already planned broad layoffs, which would have affected up to a quarter of the staff, according to people familiar with the plans. The Post reported previously the company’s board was planning to cut thousands of jobs as part…

This is like saying that people who call new painting as super ugly on the wall should stop complaining, because there was originally plan for different painting. Size of layoffs matter. How you execute layoffs matter. How you choose people to be fired and how you treat them matter a lot. And also, it matter a lot whether you dont play into hostile attitude nonsense toward them on social media (they were surely all l…

eh, most of the comments here aren't saying what you're saying. They are blasting Musk for having layoffs in general.

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Post by TrueGeek »

imustbeevil wrote: post #159
TrueGeek wrote: post #128

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Are you saying you’ve declined your employer sponsored healthcare and just signed up at healthcare.gov and it ended up being cheaper?

Yes. The plan my employer had in Hawaii was $700/mo for pretty average coverage. On Healthcare.gov the best possible plan I could get, $0 deductible, full coverage, etc, was $510/mo. I think the difficulty is that most people who have employer healthcare have never checked healthcare.gov because they didn't need to, but it's hard to keep seeing people perpetuate this idea that hasn't been true for over a decade.

Ah, you might not have kids? I just went through the sign up process. All the plans were about the same for me on Healthcare.gov: $1,400 a month with no coverage until after a $14k deductible. This is for a family of four in Georgia.

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Post by watwut »

theonething wrote: post #161
watwut wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is like saying that people who call new painting as super ugly on the wall should stop complaining, because there was originally plan for different painting. Size of layoffs matter. How you execute layoffs matter. How you choose people to be fired and how you treat them matter a lot. And also, it matter a lot whether you dont play into hostile attitude nonsense toward them on social media (they were surely all l…

eh, most of the comments here aren't saying what you're saying. They are blasting Musk for having layoffs in general.

It really does not seem so to me. They complain about size of it, speed of it and the way it was done. They are however reacting in more of emotional way.

The thing is, Musk really went out of his way to troll Twitter employees and those who like twitter. And his fans really went out of way to mock fired people, call them lazy and so on. It was not just layoff, it was layoff designed to let you know how much looser you are.

People respond in kind, with schadenfreude and bullying back.

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Post by buzzdenver »

hagbarth wrote: post #139

It was pretty obvious from the speed of the layoffs that this would happen. No way they would be able to accurately suss out everyone that would be needed in a few days. They prioritised speed over accuracy, which I can actually respect. Question is how hard it's going to bite them.

So they hastily, after one week, laid off 50% of their staff, but it took just one weekend to realize that some of those people are needed? I guess they were really missed at Twitter, but this is not exactly the sign of a well run company.

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Post by luxcem »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #154
akmarinov wrote: post #66

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There’s likely no negotiations. More of a “could you come back please?” And you either accept because you don’t have anything lined up or tell them to go pound sand

I'm 99% confident that anyone with Twitter on their resumè will have no problems landing another job.

100% confident that anyone who are called back because they were essential will have absolutely no problems

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

InsOp wrote: post #57
allenrb wrote: post #46

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It varies. I’ve been a SpaceX (and thus Elon) fan since they were unsuccessfully launching Falcon 1’s. EM’s willingness to share information with the space fan community won him a lot of admirers. I was certainly willing to overlook many of his other failings as a result. That’s become harder in the last few years and practically impossible in 2022. At this point, I am desperately hoping for SpaceX to get Starship/Su…

what are the other things he is screwing up?

> what are the other things he is screwing up?

Not much. His public feuding and conspiracy theory spreading is largely constrained to Twitter. The whole thing going under might be the best outcome for him. Presently, however, he’s acting like an addict given the crack store.

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Post by Watchwatcher »

gw98 wrote: post #142
Watchwatcher wrote: post #135

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It does feel unnaturally influenced, I agree. Follow the money, I suppose. Who stands to gain from twitter and/or elons failure? We can speculate for fun. Certainly Bill Gates, with his half billion short on Tesla. He'd have the money to influence social media. We already know Microsoft games HN from when the CEO was bragging about it to shareholders. So it can be done. Who else? Oil and Gas probably hate him for Tes…

Not even slightly jealous. The guy purports to be solving the greatest problems humanity has in some kind of altruistic way. But really he’s built a company selling luxury electric cars to the top 5% which allow us to carry on our bad behaviour for a few more years in a new way. At the same time trying to crush worker rights and sell out to China.

I'm jealous of the ability that he has to do whatever he wants, not the means by which he does it.

I'm over here expecting to lose my house as interest rates crank up, barely able to afford daycare and he's what, pissing off easily upset internet people while doing literally whatever he pleases?

I'm jealous of the power.

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Post by siggen »

notacoward wrote: post #109
pella wrote: post #63

related: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33488224 see the top comments. "Allegedly Oracle did this years ago when they had layoffs-- employees were let go, then asked if they wanted to return. Apparently, if they said no, the company considered the exit a resignation instead of a layoff, and would refuse severance. If oracle was then taken to court over the lack of severance by former employees, those employees'…

Are you suggesting that Elon Musk is the new Larry Ellison?

Elon and Larry are close friends.
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