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Twitter now asks some fired workers to please come back

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Re: Twitter now asks some fired workers to please come back

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Post by t0mas88 »

still_grokking wrote: post #10
t0mas88 wrote: post #7

> Some of those who are being asked to return were laid off by mistake, according to two people familiar with the moves. Sure, "laid off by mistake" is a way to describe incompetence...

Just to clarify: Whose incompetence? I would assume the executing people were still people form Twitter before Musk. Or not?

Management incompetence at several levels. Apparently the CEO and his advisors choose to execute layoffs at this speed, others below that either didn't push back (could be due to the type of CEO / associated culture) or their pushback was ignored. The end result is the organization doing things that clearly aren't in its own interest which is a management fail.

Re: Twitter now asks some fired workers to please come back

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Post by SkyMarshal »

LadyCailin wrote: post #5

I just really don’t understand how this whole situation has been this badly mismanaged. I fully believe his original offer to be a troll, but then he got stuck with it, but he has since so mismanaged this entire affair that I simply can’t understand how. Is the guy surrounding himself with idiotic advisers? Has he just gotten so far from reality that he can’t make reasonable predictions? Has he gone off some meds? It…

Yeah I'm thinking the same. Even without the screwups, it's an unbelievable waste of $44billion dollars. He could have invested that in a nuclear fusion startup or something else that would advance his dual goals of clean energy and a multi-planet species (and almost certainly make better ROI than Twitter). Instead through a series of bizarre misteps he spends that on a useless vanity project that will distract him from his important companies, and then proceeds to fuck it up in just about every conceivable way. Like, dude...

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Post by taffronaut »

Traubenfuchs wrote: post #16
LadyCailin wrote: post #5

I just really don’t understand how this whole situation has been this badly mismanaged. I fully believe his original offer to be a troll, but then he got stuck with it, but he has since so mismanaged this entire affair that I simply can’t understand how. Is the guy surrounding himself with idiotic advisers? Has he just gotten so far from reality that he can’t make reasonable predictions? Has he gone off some meds? It…

> I just really don’t understand how this whole situation has been this badly mismanaged. You and almost the whole world. There are still some people left believing him to play some kind of genius 4D chess. Same thing happens for Trump and Ye.

Maybe Thiel is playing the 4D chess in the run up to 2024 and Musk is on board as a very effective distraction who thinks he's the central player.

Re: Twitter now asks some fired workers to please come back

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Post by nixcraft »

fabian2k wrote: post #18

The interesting parts it going to be how many people that are important to keeping Twitter running are going to quit in addition to the fired ones. It's not going to be a nice place to work for, so those people that are financially well off and those that can get good jobs somewhere else are probably considering their options right now.

The whole thing could have been avoided if Twitter/Elon had done it step-by-step instead of terminating staff in bulk. Everyone in tech is reducing headcount, but Elon likes to do stuff on a grand scale. He needs a human Twitter firewall (social media team who can say "NO") to verify each Tweet before sending it, causing chaos every day. But what do I know? I have never been CEO, so I have no idea.

Re: Twitter now asks some fired workers to please come back

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Post by bagels »

mkl95 wrote: post #13

Sounds like they want to lay them off with three weeks notice or whatever the law mandates in that area to prevent legal action. Personally I would accept the offer and do the bare minimum while I look for a new job.

Accept, with some extra consideration, and still look.

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Post by garbagetime »

LadyCailin wrote: post #5

I just really don’t understand how this whole situation has been this badly mismanaged. I fully believe his original offer to be a troll, but then he got stuck with it, but he has since so mismanaged this entire affair that I simply can’t understand how. Is the guy surrounding himself with idiotic advisers? Has he just gotten so far from reality that he can’t make reasonable predictions? Has he gone off some meds? It…

How has he mismanaged it?

Re: Twitter now asks some fired workers to please come back

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Post by uri4 »

fabian2k wrote: post #18

The interesting parts it going to be how many people that are important to keeping Twitter running are going to quit in addition to the fired ones. It's not going to be a nice place to work for, so those people that are financially well off and those that can get good jobs somewhere else are probably considering their options right now.

> it's not going to be a nice place to work for, so those people that are financially well off

I beg to differ. People who are crucial to operation will be much better off. Less meetings, less bloat, less bs, probably better salary.

I do consulting. Recession is good for business, companies lay off team of 10 developers and replace it with single remote consultant for 40% of cost. Also less taxes, since I work in different country.... You do the math.

Re: Twitter now asks some fired workers to please come back

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Post by captainmuon »

SkyMarshal wrote: post #32
LadyCailin wrote: post #5

I just really don’t understand how this whole situation has been this badly mismanaged. I fully believe his original offer to be a troll, but then he got stuck with it, but he has since so mismanaged this entire affair that I simply can’t understand how. Is the guy surrounding himself with idiotic advisers? Has he just gotten so far from reality that he can’t make reasonable predictions? Has he gone off some meds? It…

Yeah I'm thinking the same. Even without the screwups, it's an unbelievable waste of $44 billion dollars. He could have invested that in a nuclear fusion startup or something else that would advance his dual goals of clean energy and a multi-planet species (and almost certainly make better ROI than Twitter). Instead through a series of bizarre misteps he spends that on a useless vanity project that will distract him…

Well, see it this way, the old owners of Twitter now have all that money. Maybe they'll invest in something interesting? The only difference is that it won't be controlled by an unstable Elon Musk.

(TBH I'm not even sure who the previous owners were...)

Re: Twitter now asks some fired workers to please come back

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Post by fabian2k »

uri4 wrote: post #38
fabian2k wrote: post #18

The interesting parts it going to be how many people that are important to keeping Twitter running are going to quit in addition to the fired ones. It's not going to be a nice place to work for, so those people that are financially well off and those that can get good jobs somewhere else are probably considering their options right now.

> it's not going to be a nice place to work for, so those people that are financially well off I beg to differ. People who are crucial to operation will be much better off. Less meetings, less bloat, less bs, probably better salary. I do consulting. Recession is good for business, companies lay off team of 10 developers and replace it with single remote consultant for 40% of cost. Also less taxes, since I work in dif…

Why would you expect their salary to increase. And I think the whole "work the whole weekend to get the new Twitter Blue done" thing shows what kind of workplace this is likely going to be in the future.
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