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Re: Tell HN: A hacker's life is in danger, your awareness may be life saving

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Post by effie »

watwut wrote: post #59
h4t wrote: post #41

Does protesting even do any good in a government such as Iran? Being present during a protest -- get targeted and locked up or worse (killed). It is really doing the oppressors a favor by gathering together.Rather than take it to the streets they should take it to the basement and plan out calculated attacks and disrupt the infrastructure that facilitate their rule.

That is called terrorism. Also, people participate in protests because they feel need to do something and are willing to take the risk. It is the "I can't stay passive anymore" statement and feeling at large. And there were succesfull protests. That is how communism ended. That is how Ukraine protests kept it democracy back in 2014 (rather then allowing it to become Belurussia). And Iran had succesfull revolution too…

>That is how communism ended.

Whoa, wait a minute. Where?

Communism in Europe imploded on itself because of western pressure, weakened Soviet Union and dysfunctional economy. Protests were just a manifestation.

Re: Tell HN: A hacker's life is in danger, your awareness may be life saving

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Post by mehrdada »

consumer451 wrote: post #107
tgma wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not exactly that simple: Islamists (and religion in general) is also perceived to be an antidote to Marxism. At the height of the Cold War and bordering Soviet Union, the west resorted to creating and supporting religious groups "Mujahedin" in Afghanistan (Taliban v0.1) and Khomeini in Iran. The Late Shah of Iran is on record constantly warning about "Red regression" (referring to Communists) and "Black regressi…

> Funny that in the western world, we are seeing the extreme left/woke anti-Americans and the Islamists join forces again too Going to need a citation there good sir.

Look no further than Ilhan Omar: Islam, anti-imperialism (BDS), LGBT-activism (mostly T-activism these days), and radical feminism have joined forces.

Or the extreme lack of coverage of Iran protests in the major US newspapers despite their unprecedented scale and spread across the world (dare it looks anti-Hijab and exposes Islam as a threat) as another example.

I'm surprised you see this as a controversial claim. Here's how an Iranian women's right activist discusses how she's alienated by the Feminist crowd because she is against forced Hijab in Iran, making Islam look bad: https://www.hbo.com/real-time-with-bill-maher/season-20/29-s...

This behavior is par for the course of the contemporary western left narrative. A western country behaving like France restricting Hijab to some degree gets many times more exposure than Taliban and Islamic Republic mandatory Hijab.

Re: Tell HN: A hacker's life is in danger, your awareness may be life saving

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Post by yunohn »

OJFord wrote: post #85
yunohn wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While Wikipedia is great, that link is more like news “trivia” rather than anything substantially informative. There is absolutely no value to knowing every single accident, disaster, political incident, etc happening in every country around the world today.

But it does let you decide for yourself which have any importance to you without enticing you with clickbait headlines and images, or pre-filtering for what the particular company's editors or owners want you to see/think you want to see.

And which of these news trivia facts actually have relevance and importance to you?

I’m not supporting clickbait, just debating the value of a list of events with zero context.

Re: Tell HN: A hacker's life is in danger, your awareness may be life saving

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Post by D13Fd »

mehrdada wrote: post #112
consumer451 wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Funny that in the western world, we are seeing the extreme left/woke anti-Americans and the Islamists join forces again too Going to need a citation there good sir.

Look no further than Ilhan Omar: Islam, anti-imperialism (BDS), LGBT-activism (mostly T-activism these days), and radical feminism have joined forces. Or the extreme lack of coverage of Iran protests in the major US newspapers despite their unprecedented scale and spread across the world (dare it looks anti-Hijab and exposes Islam as a threat) as another example. I'm surprised you see this as a controversial claim. H…

> Look no further than Ilhan Omar: Islam, anti-imperialism (BDS), LGBT-activism (mostly T-activism these days), and radical feminism have joined forces. . . . I’m surprised you see this as a controversial claim.

Looks like you’ve been taking in a lot of ideological media. Do you have a reality-based citation?

Re: Tell HN: A hacker's life is in danger, your awareness may be life saving

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Post by mehrdada »

D13Fd wrote: post #114
mehrdada wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Look no further than Ilhan Omar: Islam, anti-imperialism (BDS), LGBT-activism (mostly T-activism these days), and radical feminism have joined forces. Or the extreme lack of coverage of Iran protests in the major US newspapers despite their unprecedented scale and spread across the world (dare it looks anti-Hijab and exposes Islam as a threat) as another example. I'm surprised you see this as a controversial claim. H…

> Look no further than Ilhan Omar: Islam, anti-imperialism (BDS), LGBT-activism (mostly T-activism these days), and radical feminism have joined forces. . . . I’m surprised you see this as a controversial claim. Looks like you’ve been taking in a lot of ideological media. Do you have a reality-based citation?

Which stance of hers that I listed do you dispute? Ad hominem much?

I attached a link to an interview describing concrete circumstances. Did you watch it before making your assertion, for example?

If you suggest that is not representative or whatever please make your claim specific. Otherwise it must be you that cannot see reality when faced with it; I cannot take your comment seriously.

Re: Tell HN: A hacker's life is in danger, your awareness may be life saving

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Post by garfieldnate »

ShredKazoo wrote: post #49

This appears to be a good subreddit for following protests and other developments: https://www.reddit.com/r/NewIran/

I have 0 context here. Could you explain the guys knocking the white hats off of older men?

Re: Tell HN: A hacker's life is in danger, your awareness may be life saving

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Post by ShredKazoo »

garfieldnate wrote: post #117
ShredKazoo wrote: post #49

This appears to be a good subreddit for following protests and other developments: https://www.reddit.com/r/NewIran/

I have 0 context here. Could you explain the guys knocking the white hats off of older men?

Pretty sure it's a religious symbol

Re: Tell HN: A hacker's life is in danger, your awareness may be life saving

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Post by garfieldnate »

ShredKazoo wrote: post #118
garfieldnate wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have 0 context here. Could you explain the guys knocking the white hats off of older men?

Pretty sure it's a religious symbol

Yes, but why are they doing it? Are people wearing the hats perceived to be oppressors themselves or are they merely a symbol?
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