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Home truths about macOS

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Re: Home truths about macOS

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post #79

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But at least we all know 3 came before 7, 11 followed 10 etc. Vista was 8. Dunno what happened to 9 but I'll never remember the order of 'name'. Same with android....kit kat was version what now?

Android has always gone in alphabetical order, so you can work it out in a few seconds. Strangely I think it was easier to keep track of the order of OS X codenames when they were all big cats. It was more memorable.

Apple naming is too Californian centric.

Re: Home truths about macOS

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I recently upgraded from a Late 2013 MacBook Pro to the base model 14 inch MacBook Pro M1. It cost me £1,729.00. I'll probably update more frequently now (I'm thinking every three years) but even if I didn't here is the cost breakdown.

1729 / 7 years / 365 days = £0.68 / day

Personally, for what you get, I think this is an incredibly reasonable subscription. I would love to know the percentage of people on this thread that are moaning about official support being dropped after seven years who happily spend £2.72 (4 times as much) on a coffee every day.

Re: Home truths about macOS

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post #162

I recently upgraded from a Late 2013 MacBook Pro to the base model 14 inch MacBook Pro M1. It cost me £1,729.00. I'll probably update more frequently now (I'm thinking every three years) but even if I didn't here is the cost breakdown. 1729 / 7 years / 365 days = £0.68 / day Personally, for what you get, I think this is an incredibly reasonable subscription. I would love to know the percentage of people on this threa…

Plus, MacBooks hold an amazing re sell value vs HP, Lenovo, etc.

I'm not a fanboy (I hate Apple push for anti repair), but in honor of the truth, after the switch from Intel to ARM M1, Apple has one of the best balance of value/performance laptops in the market.

Re: Home truths about macOS

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post #48

This is simply how Apple does things. They provide software support for ~10 years and then they drop it. Is it wrong? I’m not entirely sure. You can call that greedy, but take a few things into consideration. Firstly, Apple provides highly specialized software that runs extremely well and efficiently on their own hardware. Continuously providing support for old hardware while simultaneously maintaining the same level…

I've used macOS professionally for years and it absolutely does not Just Work. I greatly prefer Linux, which also doesn't Just Work, but at least exposes enough knobs that you can fix what doesn't work. Unlike on Mac where you have to disable SIP just to get started fixing it.

Re: Home truths about macOS

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post #52

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Isn't that... Umm good ? Windows completely rehauls everything in every major releases and makes it difficult to navigate through.

But at least we all know 3 came before 7, 11 followed 10 etc. Vista was 8. Dunno what happened to 9 but I'll never remember the order of 'name'. Same with android....kit kat was version what now?

no so it was Vista, 7, then 8 - which would make Vista 6

Re: Home truths about macOS

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post #6

> What other actively exploited bugs are Big Sur and Monterey now vulnerable to? Actually, Apple sometimes patches actively exploited vulnerabilities in "unsupported" older versions of both macOS and iOS. The vulnerabilities that don't get quickly patched are the ones that aren't actively exploited. In any case, security researchers talk about known vulnerabilities that have or haven't been patched, but as the author…

Do you have any information about how old versions of Mac OS receive security updates? As far as I'm aware, I don't really see any updates come through in the regular update section of the settings. It might've happened if there was some ridiculous vulnerability... But I otherwise don't think I've seen any general security updates show up (even after newsworthy events).

Also I keep asking this and keep getting 0 or bad answers. When people say web browsers, and specifically JavaScript, are to blame for almost all security issues -- What specifically are you referring to?

In almost every case I've looked into, what happens is somebody downloads some sort of file that is actually an .exe. Like TaylorSwiftGreatestHits.mp3.exe for example. It's almost always on a very old Windows version that has literally never done any updates.

Sometimes some JavaScript initiates the download of this file. When this then makes the news and is finally reported, the entire fault is explained as "JavaScript" or "Internet Browser" fully automated bug that requires 0 user input.

In reality, the user downloads the .exe and is prompted by Windows security to not run this file. They say run it anyway. Windows says the file was still not run for some security reasons. So the user disables the entire security system. Then the file says it must be run with administrator rights. They then run it once again with admin rights. Finally, X bug happens or is initiated.

This is constantly the ONLY actual event I come across where there is some crazy vulnerability. I have literally never seen something that's not this situation.

Back to my original question, if this is NOT actually the case, and there is verifiable information from any reasonably competent computer person, let me know so I can finally learn more.

Re: Home truths about macOS

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post #132

Hard truths about software : they have bugs. There's no such thing as an OS that has zero bugs. All major versions of software become abandoned eventually. Then you either upgrade to a newer version of the software or you live with whatever bugs you have. > Those residual bugs are often severe: El Capitan continued to cause many Macs to grind to a halt through its entire cycle, the cause not being addressed until Sie…

(Apologies in advance for embracing the off-topic tangent.)

What you quoted from the article: "Most people under the age of 70 who are in reasonably good health should be safe"

For someone anti-vax, his own choice of words is odd. Most? Reasonably? Should? Is this supposed to be a compelling formulation of their argument? It's astounding to me that anti-vax arguments are so often laced in ambiguity and "principles", i.e. emotions which cosplay as rationality.

Whereas a properly rational and evidence-driven argument is just so straightforward. Your chances of avoiding infection are slim and ever-diminishing. The disease has a non-zero risk of complications/hospital resource dependency/death for people of all ages. The vaccines have a statistically significant impact on outcomes and an utterly spectacular safety track record. End of argument.

Re: Home truths about macOS

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Long-time Mac user here -- by that I mean, I use my Macs for a long time. Long, long after Apple supports them. My Mac Pro 4,1 is a daily driver. I replaced my 2011 MacBook Pro with a ThinkPad only this year. I have strong feelings on this, but I'll say only two things:

1) Apple breaks more with each OS update than they offer in terms of features. I own Photoshop CS4 for personal use. It works great. At work, they pay for a subscription for the latest Adobe software and its crashy, screen-flickery, garbage. CS4 just works -- but that means I have to stay on Mojave, and that means I'm sticking with my Mac Pro. Same for the version of Final Cut I have. Same for my back catalog of fun games... and I dual boot Snow Leopard for some of the really old ones.

2) All complaints about Windows here are valid, but I have apps from the 3.1 era that run on modern hardware on Windows 11. Compared to Microsoft track-record, Apple shouldn't even be considered a stable OS platform provider. They make nice hardware; they're increasingly making a dumbed-down OS that's only redeeming characteristic is that it can run all the common browsers and has a nice shell built in.

Re: Home truths about macOS

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I avoid updating my software like the plague. Actually, the reason I switched to Firefox is because Chrome's updater snuck past my firewall. That is literally the only reason why. I am considering switching back after seeing how terrible Firefox is. For example, it has a memory leak that causes a crash after 3-4 days of uptime.

I wonder if just maybe an update might… fix a bug?

A recent Firefox update had completely cleaned up all configuration and plugins that I had installed. I wouldn’t go back to Chrome over this, but it wasn’t a minor issue for me and it definitely made me more reluctant to the future updates.
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