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Re: TextMate 2 (Public) Alpha

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post #29

I moved to vim more out of boredom more than anything. Using vim turned into a game for me... always trying a more efficient way of doing something. Problem now is that all of the vim keybindings are etched into my head, and it goes way beyond the standard basic keybindings. It has to do with the way Vim chains commands. There's no vim-like editor that can do that except vim, gvim & mvim. For this reason alone, vim h…

A bit off-topic, but if you like the game of efficiency, try vimgolf.com!

Re: TextMate 2 (Public) Alpha

#132
post #100

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Would something like this work for you? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/95072/what-are-your-favor...

No blow should pass, without two blows returned: * http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/SudoSave * http://stackoverflow.com/questions/95631/open-a-file-with-su... (I jest. Vim is an awesome editor and I recommend it to all my friends using Eclipse, Visual Studio, and XCode. But true enlightenment lies in Emacs, where vim is only another mode called evil: http://emacswiki.org/emacs/Evil )

Sorry, but there is no true enlightenment, in any text editor.

Other than vim off course ;-)

Re: TextMate 2 (Public) Alpha

#133
post #120

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Design is not a theme.

Pardon? If you're implying that ST2 is somehow inherently bad then I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER HOW MUCH JOY ST2 IS EMANATING.

You have to admit though that Sublime Text 2 is pretty ugly by default. Both theme and initial impression. I really enjoy using it now, but that's after four tries or so after I heard about it few months ago on HN.

Initial impression with ST2 is like playing jigsaw puzzles, it's a mix of mouse clicks and some weird text editing until you're comfortable with Cmd+Shift+P. I remembered my experience trying to adjust font size went on like this: Open preferences, hey wait what is default global settings? user file settings? Hm, let's try this one... wait I have to edit settings file? I better use Emacs then! Where I can find all available configuration options? Google search? Oops, that's for Sublime Text 1. ARGH!

Even though I do enjoy using it now, it still feel like playing jigsaw puzzles but with majority of pieces in its place. (Like recently: wait, ST2 can do split screens? Hmm, Cmd+Shift+P split... nothing? Let's try Google... none tell me how to enable it. 20 minutes later Ah, it's in the View/Layout!) I can see the whole picture now, just missing a little bits here and there.

Re: TextMate 2 (Public) Alpha

#134
post #68

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The vintage (vim-like) mode is what pulled me into sublime text as my go-to editor. It's just so much faster. I opened the textmate alpha and immediately had a bunch of j characters appear before I realized i don't think I can go back. It's either ST or vim for now…

Try Vico. Textmate bundles and vim editing.

Thanks for the tip I'll need to take a look at this!

Re: TextMate 2 (Public) Alpha

#135

In the mean time Sublime Text 2 has all of the Alpha features as well as cross platform support and support for TextMate bundles. You should really give it a shot if you haven't.

The vintage (vim-like) mode is what pulled me into sublime text as my go-to editor. It's just so much faster. I opened the textmate alpha and immediately had a bunch of j characters appear before I realized i don't think I can go back. It's either ST or vim for now…

One of the huge reasons I switched to Sublime Text 2 in the first place. I like vim but I hate having to manage all of these plugins and configurations just to get things like folder views.

That said its not perfect and I do miss the old vim from time to time.

Re: TextMate 2 (Public) Alpha

#136
post #133

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Pardon? If you're implying that ST2 is somehow inherently bad then I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER HOW MUCH JOY ST2 IS EMANATING.

You have to admit though that Sublime Text 2 is pretty ugly by default. Both theme and initial impression. I really enjoy using it now, but that's after four tries or so after I heard about it few months ago on HN. Initial impression with ST2 is like playing jigsaw puzzles, it's a mix of mouse clicks and some weird text editing until you're comfortable with Cmd+Shift+P. I remembered my experience trying to adjust fon…

I completely agree, the menus and the options are pretty close to archaic. The developer has a bunch of work to do there. Once I got it down to an environment I liked I never had to touch it again, and with the nice package manager I never had to worry about new touching the package system again as well.

Re: TextMate 2 (Public) Alpha

#137
post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pardon? If you're implying that ST2 is somehow inherently bad then I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER HOW MUCH JOY ST2 IS EMANATING.

You have to admit though that Sublime Text 2 is pretty ugly by default. Both theme and initial impression. I really enjoy using it now, but that's after four tries or so after I heard about it few months ago on HN. Initial impression with ST2 is like playing jigsaw puzzles, it's a mix of mouse clicks and some weird text editing until you're comfortable with Cmd+Shift+P. I remembered my experience trying to adjust fon…

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Re: TextMate 2 (Public) Alpha

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Sublime text is very clunky and has that very weird "UI app written in a scripting language feel" to it. I know that's not a value which is easy to quantify, but I think it's down to a slightly weird architecture and latency because of its heavy dependency on python.

I really hate ST2's handling of project-wide file system controls on the left. Renaming a file keeps the old buffer open and I've been caught a few times re-saving under the old name. I've yet to figure out how to open a project directory from the GUI, too. I always liked the file browser column in TM better.

Renaming is a huge huge issue, as well as managing files from that left hand menu. It seems to be just kinda awkward.

Re: TextMate 2 (Public) Alpha

#139

> Full screen mode: This is mainly because we are hesitant to go Lion-only so we are holding back with “lionizing” TextMate till we feel confident we can fully drop backwards compatibility. That's not true. Adding full-screen support does not require breaking backwards compatibility: it's a quick check to see if the feature can be enabled.

I am also confused by all of the Lion hate. I will admit I just recently got my first mac but man is Fullscreen mode NICE. Swipe right to go to the browser, swipe right to my text editor, swipe again to check on the irc window.

All the while those screens are not distracting me with popups and notices. To me Lion is still more fluid and better built then anything I've used from Ubuntu to Win7/8.

Re: TextMate 2 (Public) Alpha

#140
post #90

In the mean time Sublime Text 2 has all of the Alpha features as well as cross platform support and support for TextMate bundles. You should really give it a shot if you haven't.

There is one feature in TextMate that's not in Sublime which I really love to the point, where it's an absolute requirement for me: when I edit a file in TextMate and my account lacks permission for saving the file, TM would allow me to sudo right from the GUI in order to still save. This is much better than seeing that I can't save, copy the whole file to the clipboard, reopen it with 'sudo vim' and then pasting it…

This drives me crazy.

Sublime Text guy, if you're reading, please fix it. I will do a little dance in front of my desk the day I see that in the changelog.

Oh yeah and the duplicate saving of renamed files thing.

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