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Twitter Now Asks Some Fired Workers to Please Come Back

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Re: Twitter Now Asks Some Fired Workers to Please Come Back

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post #26

Sounds familiar. Where I worked years ago, the company asked for volunteers to be laid off, many people, took the package (1 years salary). IT was not allowed to volunteer. Mang. did not keep count, some Departments were emptied out. So after a couple of weeks, many people were re-hired and was able to keep their '1 year salary bonus'. Many people in IT left once the re-hirings happened. The company went chapter 11 a…

Accept to leave for 1 year salary? I’d do that any time. It’s a free year off, you can even start working somewhere else if you get bored and just be 1 year ahead finance wise.

That’s a great deal.

Re: Twitter Now Asks Some Fired Workers to Please Come Back

#72

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I realized Elon wasn't a scientist or engineer a long time ago. But a good businessman I thought he was and I think it's too early to say in this case whether that holds true. One issue is that since the company is now private, we most likley will not get to see it's profit. All we will have is what employees or musk says. So I still think it's too soon to make conclusions.

The twitter bankruptcy will be a very public process.

90% of Twitter's revenue comes from ads. Advertisers are reportedly abandoning the platform en masse, and the rest will follow once Musk does his next stupid thing.

No amount of layoffs is going to cover the dissolution of their revenue basis. Twitter will become a thing of the past, like MySpace.

Re: Twitter Now Asks Some Fired Workers to Please Come Back

#73
post #50

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I’m don’t fall into one camp or the other: I think the guy is human, like everyone else, and riddled with faults. But one guy has put humans into space, and the other sold steaks on infomercials.

That's quite the slanted framing. An alternate framing: one was president of the United States and one got pushed down a flight of stairs for making fun of a kid because his father committed suicide.

But as a businessman, Musk has done far more for society with SpaceX and Starlink than Trump ever did as a sketchy real estate developer, or media personality. Let's give that to Musk, not withstanding his dubious personal choices, polarizing public persona, or this questionable decision of buying and then gutting an unprofitable social network.

Re: Twitter Now Asks Some Fired Workers to Please Come Back

#74
post #43

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Depending on the thread it can go either way. There are large contingents on both sides as Musk is quite divisive.

Yeah fair enough, two sides to everything. Anecdotally I feel like I see a lot of Elon hate, but that could just be my decency bias due to Twitter drama and layoffs.

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Re: Twitter Now Asks Some Fired Workers to Please Come Back

#75
post #11

Can't wait to see the HN "just give Elon a chance to put his brilliant plans in motion!" crowd to explain this one to us. Enlighten us please !

This article says they are trying to bring back "dozens" of employees. 3700 were fired. Of those apparently some were fired due to clerical error. What is there to explain?

There is a bunch of mass layoffs happening in other tech companies (and across the economy), are we going to pretend they will all go smoothly?

Actually come to think of it, without this acquisition Twitter would still have been forced to let a bunch of people go anyhow regardless of who happens to be the CEO. Possibly just as many. Probably with less severance... but definitely with nicer emails...

Take a deep breath.

Re: Twitter Now Asks Some Fired Workers to Please Come Back

#76
post #11

Can't wait to see the HN "just give Elon a chance to put his brilliant plans in motion!" crowd to explain this one to us. Enlighten us please !

HN seems pretty anti Elon, no?

A man has to be full of great melancholies to accomplish what he has. This clearly has positive and negative sides. Judging from the accomplishments of great people throughout history you cannot have one without the other.

In the case of Twitter something had to be done. It was too powerful of a public forum and was mismanaged and run by extremists and exacerbated existing divisions, turning them into real rifts. If half a country feels they are being actively suppressed, demonized, and treated unfairly that is a recipe for disaster. Was Elon the guy to fix it? I dunno who else would be crazy enough to try. And his roots are in web tech so his experience may help.

Re: Twitter Now Asks Some Fired Workers to Please Come Back

#78
post #23

If I were asked back I'd take it (hopefully with an increase in salary) then I'd actively search for another job. Once I landed it I'd give zero day notice. Fuck them. I understand I could be potentially hurting coworkers by adding additional work to their plate but Twitter didn't give 2 shits about the people left behind and the work that they would have to take on. Why is it corporations can "layoff" without notice…

That is certainly a hot take. When a company is losing $4 million a day drastic measures are in order to save the company so the remaining employees still have a job. Having worked in tech for over 20 years and being on both sides of layoffs I can tell you how hard it is for the people making the decision of who to layoff is exceedingly difficult and heart breaking. It definitely looks like Twitter was a hot mess and…

Yeah, cry me a river for the poor heart-broken decision makers, who (in fact) aren't actually losing their job.

Re: Twitter Now Asks Some Fired Workers to Please Come Back

#79
post #23

If I were asked back I'd take it (hopefully with an increase in salary) then I'd actively search for another job. Once I landed it I'd give zero day notice. Fuck them. I understand I could be potentially hurting coworkers by adding additional work to their plate but Twitter didn't give 2 shits about the people left behind and the work that they would have to take on. Why is it corporations can "layoff" without notice…

I would probably take the job and proceed to do fuck all until they fired me again.

A company tried to get me to come back and do handover after terminating a contract in breach a few years back. Agreement was a month. I did nothing for the entire month because they didn’t specify a deliverable. Due to working through an agency that was larger than the company I got paid and they got told to piss off when they complained.

Re: Twitter Now Asks Some Fired Workers to Please Come Back

#80
post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m don’t fall into one camp or the other: I think the guy is human, like everyone else, and riddled with faults. But one guy has put humans into space, and the other sold steaks on infomercials.

That's quite the slanted framing. An alternate framing: one was president of the United States and one got pushed down a flight of stairs for making fun of a kid because his father committed suicide.

I framed it this way because GP was make a pejorative comparison.
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