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Re: EU Voice

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Post by c80e74f077 »

Gareth321 wrote: post #150

Every time these alternative/privacy focused/decentralised social media platforms appear they absolutely BUTCHER the UX. I thought "oh cool, let's sign up!" 1. I click "sign up." So far so good. 2. I am redirected to something called "Mastodon." No idea what this is. Nothing about it on the previous page. Is this a bug? Do I trust it? No options to sign up here. Only "get the app" and "find a server." I'm on my PC an…

On the linked page:

> Where can I register?

> EU Voice is open for registrations only to EU institutions, body and agencies. However, you can still interact with EU Voice from many other compatible platforms. The Mastodon developers maintain a list of Mastodon platforms open for registration.

Re: EU Voice

#162

Post by enkursigilo »

ben_w wrote: post #121
Sargos wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Each country should control official channels of communication. I don't want to create 100 accounts to access each countries totally unique and special websites. It's a bad system and ultimately will lead to less discourse and not more.

Jes, kaj estas tre malfacila kie homoj diras kun lingvoj ce mi ne komprenas. Do, ĉiuj homoj devas paroli Esperanton. ;)

Mi ne ĝenus, se ĉiuj scius Esperanton. :d

Re: EU Voice

#163

Post by Fiahil »

gsora wrote: post #156
Gareth321 wrote: post #150

Every time these alternative/privacy focused/decentralised social media platforms appear they absolutely BUTCHER the UX. I thought "oh cool, let's sign up!" 1. I click "sign up." So far so good. 2. I am redirected to something called "Mastodon." No idea what this is. Nothing about it on the previous page. Is this a bug? Do I trust it? No options to sign up here. Only "get the app" and "find a server." I'm on my PC an…

Mastodon is a community effort, and as such members of the community will work on stuff like UX. I’m not saying that you’re wrong, but rather contribute back instead of slamming a (very advanced and usable) project down just because your registration experience was bad. This is open source, not a company with billions to spend on UX: they do what they can.

> This is open source, not a company with billions to spend on UX: they do what they can.

This is not an excuse, all it takes to have a decent -or even a good UX- is one person asking the right questions and following up by interviewing a few folks during the sign up process.

It could be done in less than 2 hours or during a coffee break.

Getting the right experience and setting aside the time to do it is just business as usual for any product owner, even if they work during they free time.

Re: EU Voice

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Post by c80e74f077 »

The announcement : https://edps.europa.eu/press-publications/press-news/press-r...

> The launch of the pilot phase of EU Voice and EU Video will help the EDPS to test the platforms in practice by collecting feedback from participating EUIs. The EDPS hopes that this first step will mark a continuity in the use of privacy-compliant social media platforms.

Re: EU Voice

#165

Post by dools »

jacooper wrote: post #85
Ecstatify wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand why the EU bothers wasting money on these initiatives. No one uses these platforms. Why don't they buy a considerable stake in these American social media companies instead of trying to reinvent the wheel that is deflating as soon as it launches. https://tube.network.europa.eu URL looks like a scam website. There is no way tech illiterate people can use these websites. Their first video that appear…

> I don't understand why the EU bothers wasting money on these initiatives Because they don't cost much? If at all? > Why don't they buy a considerable stake in these American social media companies instead of trying to reinvent the wheel that is deflating as soon as it launches. Because if they did, the US is going to freak out about foreign influence. just look at how the media is reporting on Saudi Arabia investin…

“ Saudi Arabia is one of biggest users for Twitter in the World(1), its where everything official gets announced, almost everyone has a Twitter account.”

Yeah and how many middle eastern activists and journalists are now shitting themselves because the Saudi’s just put a cowboy edge lord in charge of their DMs

Re: EU Voice

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Post by Ecstatify »

simion314 wrote: post #135
Ecstatify wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not about the cost of the service, it's that it's a pointless endeavour it's never going to succeed. Every social media company succeeds or fails based on the network effect. Where did I mention Elon?

>Where did I mention Elon? If EU would buy a big share of Titter it gives money to Elon, if from FB you give the money to Mark etc. You are implying that is pointless me to have a person website because I will not succeed to be more popular the FB or Twitter. The joke is on you I have a personal website and I run a blog and some static pages. EU is not attempting to defeat Twitter, It makes sense (if your logic circu…

I never mentioned Elon or the implications of buying twitter, you went off on that tangent.

> You are implying that is pointless me to have a person website because I will not succeed to be more popular the FB or Twitter. The joke is on you I have a personal website and I run a blog and some static pages. EU is not attempting to defeat Twitter

Again never said that.

Backup communication methods don't work if no ones uses them do they?

> 1 Twitter or FB because they might block you and your then need to fight with AI bots to unblock your stuff

Normally when you have a controlling stake in a company you can have an input in how it operates.

> 2 there might be users that do not use Twitter or FB

There's also people who don't use the internet? what's your point?

>3 Twitter and FB might not respect user privacy so it is imporal to publish only on those

EU agencies already post on Facebook and Twitter, what's your point ?

Re: EU Voice

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Post by viraptor »

Ecstatify wrote: post #68
arlort wrote: post #64

Worth pointing out that this was launched some months ago, it's not related to ongoing events with twitter They also have a peertube instance https://tube.network.europa.eu/

I don't understand why the EU bothers wasting money on these initiatives. No one uses these platforms. Why don't they buy a considerable stake in these American social media companies instead of trying to reinvent the wheel that is deflating as soon as it launches. https://tube.network.europa.eu URL looks like a scam website. There is no way tech illiterate people can use these websites. Their first video that appear…

> Why don't they buy a considerable stake in these American social media companies

One is cost - a peertube instance costs thousands of costs including employee costs, while a considerable stake in youtube would cost billions. Two Second is control - why pay lots to hopefully get some special rules that need to be maintained over time to (for example) prevent any ads affecting the content when you can host yourself and not have the issue in the first place.

Re: EU Voice

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Post by nullcaution »

arlort wrote: post #64

Worth pointing out that this was launched some months ago, it's not related to ongoing events with twitter They also have a peertube instance https://tube.network.europa.eu/

They should have called it "euTube", so much wasted potential.

Re: EU Voice

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Post by Ecstatify »

JadeNB wrote: post #129
Ecstatify wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disingenuous, huh? previous poster interpreted "buy a considerable stake in these American social media companies" as give Elon Musk money.

> previous poster interpreted "buy a considerable stake in these American social media companies" as give Elon Musk money. Which social-media companies did you mean? If Twitter is among them, then that is , at least indirectly, giving Musk money; and, if not, then it's hard to see how buying that stake would help to ensure communications reliability, since Twitter seems to be much more common than any other American…

I don't understand this link with Twitter, maybe because it's in the news now. I never mentioned any specific company. The previous poster wanted to go on some Elon rant/tangent. My point was to invest in a platform that people actually use. If I'm the EU I want to have a platform where I can spread my message to as many people as possible. The EU is already spending huge amounts of money advertising on these platforms. Why not purchase a seat at the table.
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