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Mastodon's founder has a vision to democratize social media

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Re: Mastodon's founder has a vision to democratize social media

#101
post #95

I said it before, I'm not paying so Mastodon gets popular. It's either open source no strings attached I can change what I want or nothing.

I'm not sure what your issue is. Mastodon is open source. You can download it right now and stand up a server without payment or permission.

Re: Mastodon's founder has a vision to democratize social media

#102
post #98

Mastodon is too fragmented to work... well. For example; this tweet: https://twitter.com/joinmastodon/status/1585756076305444864 . Would you really host your email on a server that some dude in rural Canada runs in his spare time? I don't think so. Not just for reliability reasons, but for privacy reasons as well.

Handling it less like email and more like a “well if it blows up ah well” is part of the featureset in my opinion.

Social accounts are monetizable & part of peoples brands now - “well if it blows up ah well” might be fine for you or for me, but might not be for others.

Re: Mastodon's founder has a vision to democratize social media

#103
post #39
post #4

Wasn't it the idea of Musk to give everyone on Twitter absolute freedom of (amplification of) speech?

Yeah, that's the point. Mastodon was created because its developers thought Twitter didn't have enough censorship. I don't mean to trivialize their achievement, but I thought that was pretty funny.

>Mastodon was created because its developers thought Twitter didn't have enough censorship

You got it backwards. Mastodon was created back in 2016 when Twitter censorship was starting to get way out of hand. Its description was "A decentralized solution to commercial platforms, it avoids the risks of a single company monopolizing your communication."

Re: Mastodon's founder has a vision to democratize social media

#105
post #94

Mastodon is too fragmented to work... well. For example; this tweet: https://twitter.com/joinmastodon/status/1585756076305444864 . Would you really host your email on a server that some dude in rural Canada runs in his spare time? I don't think so. Not just for reliability reasons, but for privacy reasons as well.

As with email hosting, what stops you to choose instance served by a company? Let's imagine Google Fedi+, MS Fedilook or Proton Fedi hosted from some bunker in Switzerland.

> what stops you to choose instance served by a company

That when the goodwill of said company runs out, there is very little incentive for them to maintain the service (other than trying to monetize it).

Re: Mastodon's founder has a vision to democratize social media

#106
post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Handling it less like email and more like a “well if it blows up ah well” is part of the featureset in my opinion.

Social accounts are monetizable & part of peoples brands now - “well if it blows up ah well” might be fine for you or for me, but might not be for others.

Arguably we’re seeing the beginning of Twitter blowing up and if that falls to Digg-like irrelevance they face a similar issue.

Re: Mastodon's founder has a vision to democratize social media

#107

I really want to like Mastodon, and every few years I make an attempt to join. But then, I am faced with the decision of choosing a server - if I like cooking and golf, do I join the cooking server or the golf server? What if I choose wrong ? - and the choice overload makes me just give up. And even if I really joined, then apparently my server's administrator would be able to silently prevent me from seeing other "e…

Two big, vanilla instances are https://mastodon.social and https://mas.to. Unfortunately they've both been struggling to keep up with demand lately. If you're paralyzed by choice, I'd say just go for one of those if / when they're accepting new users.

I think Mastodon would get more signups if interested people were just pointed at like ten working, non-specialized, non-tiny instances, rather than being confronted with hundreds of weird / non-working options. I realize this feels a bit contrary to the goals of federation, but the current situation seems to be causing a lot of potential users to retreat in annoyance and confusion.

Re: Mastodon's founder has a vision to democratize social media

#108
post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As with email hosting, what stops you to choose instance served by a company? Let's imagine Google Fedi+, MS Fedilook or Proton Fedi hosted from some bunker in Switzerland.

> what stops you to choose instance served by a company That when the goodwill of said company runs out, there is very little incentive for them to maintain the service (other than trying to monetize it).

There is no free lunch. Somebody has to pay electricity bills and spend resources (time) on administration.

But you have a choice: so you trust the dude in rural Canada who pays the server bills with his harvest earnings, or you agree with monetization T&C by giving up your privacy to ads corporation, or you pay a hosting company who manages your instance on VPS, or you setup your own instance, or you participate in coop scheme where you share instance with some common interest group, or you find some rich and trusted philanthropist. Otherwise the owner can't sustain the operations and may need to shut down one day (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33120136)

Re: Mastodon's founder has a vision to democratize social media

#110

I dont think Mastodon will gain mainstream adoption because of the naming, and they call messages "Toots". Normal people will baulk at the branding of it all.

I remember complaining the “iPad” sounded like a menstrual product. Seemed to do fine.

The i-line of products was already well known by the general public at the time to be synonymous with Apple. iTunes, iPod, iPhone ... those were normal english words prefixed with an "i". People wonder why Apple didn't call their watch the iWatch. This is a much different thing with "mastrodon". It's not a word people are familiar with, has enough syllables to sound funny, and gets combined with other nonsense words people aren't familiar with. Compare that with something like youtube subscribers, posters, tweets, etc. which are all basic words. Mastrodon's situation is that it reeks of being engineer designed. That's not a good thing if your goal is to reach a mainstream audience.
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