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Re: EU Voice

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Post by seydor »

iLoveOncall wrote: post #22

It always baffled me that so many governments relied on a private solution that only has 5% of the world population as users (Twitter) as the preferred mode of communication with their citizens. It's good to see a solution made by the government instead. The next step is to make it mandatory for officials to use this platform (and Twitter or Facebook in addition if they want to, I don't care) for all their official c…

Do they rely on twitter? They use it, but almost every public organization has a website (wordpress). Twitter is a megaphone that they should use (like any other mass medium) to reach citizens

Re: EU Voice

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Post by arlort »

Ecstatify wrote: post #68
arlort wrote: post #64

Worth pointing out that this was launched some months ago, it's not related to ongoing events with twitter They also have a peertube instance https://tube.network.europa.eu/

I don't understand why the EU bothers wasting money on these initiatives. No one uses these platforms. Why don't they buy a considerable stake in these American social media companies instead of trying to reinvent the wheel that is deflating as soon as it launches. https://tube.network.europa.eu URL looks like a scam website. There is no way tech illiterate people can use these websites. Their first video that appear…

> Why don't they buy a considerable stake in these American social media companies instead

I'll assume this is made in jest, as for this

> I don't understand why the EU bothers wasting money on these initiatives.

I don't know, and I can't say I believe this should be a priority of any kind, but it probably costs them very little in both cash and man-hours, has the benefit of being self hosted rather than relying exclusively on third parties and I appreciate their endorsement of these federated platforms however small

Re: EU Voice

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Post by berkes »

Ecstatify wrote: post #68
arlort wrote: post #64

Worth pointing out that this was launched some months ago, it's not related to ongoing events with twitter They also have a peertube instance https://tube.network.europa.eu/

I don't understand why the EU bothers wasting money on these initiatives. No one uses these platforms. Why don't they buy a considerable stake in these American social media companies instead of trying to reinvent the wheel that is deflating as soon as it launches. https://tube.network.europa.eu URL looks like a scam website. There is no way tech illiterate people can use these websites. Their first video that appear…

As far as can be counted, the user count of just mastodon users, has surpassed six million [1].

> No one uses these platforms.

Six million is not no-one. It's relatively few, but absolutely a great number. I'm certain you'll have a hard time finding social networks with these amounts of users, that don't belong to one of the tech monopolies. Or with such numbers where the EU has no account or official presence.

[¹] https://bitcoinhackers.org/@mastodonusercount/10929745506607...

Re: EU Voice

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Post by arlort »

capableweb wrote: post #67
arlort wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

.europa.eu is the closest equivalent to .gov It's the base url used by all EU institutions

europa.eu is a domain, .eu is the TLD. There is no TLD equivalent of .gov for Europe. European agencies use bunch of different domains, not all of them are a subdomain under europa.eu, although many of them are under that one. You can see some examples of organizations/agencies that are not here: https://european-union.europa.eu/institutions-law-budget/ins...

> There is no TLD equivalent of .gov for Europe

Which is why I said:

> is the closest equivalent

Also it's a distinction without a difference in the context of the discussion, a tld is just another kind of domain. In the same way .gov subdomains are reserved for US government and signify to the users that the content of the page has official value subdomains of .europa.eu are reserved for EU institutions and agencies

The same way it'd not be smart for the US government to give out john.smith@gov email addresses it'd not be particularly clever for the EU to give out francois.martin@europa.eu

And no, all official agencies and institutions use .europa.eu subdomains, the only exception in that page seem to be other bodies such as research groups which are not official branches of the EU

Re: EU Voice

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Post by ceejayoz »

seydor wrote: post #70
emaro wrote: post #28

This is great, it shows one of the strengths of the Fediverse. Official bodies can participate in social media without being dependent on a foreign, for-profit company. And you can read updates with a lot of different applications, be it Mastodon, Pleroma or the RSS reader of your choice.

nobody knows this

That's a fixable problem.

Re: EU Voice

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Post by berkes »

seydor wrote: post #70
emaro wrote: post #28

This is great, it shows one of the strengths of the Fediverse. Official bodies can participate in social media without being dependent on a foreign, for-profit company. And you can read updates with a lot of different applications, be it Mastodon, Pleroma or the RSS reader of your choice.

nobody knows this

I knew it. I'm not nobody.

Sorry for pointing out, but such absolutists statements are easily debunked with a single 'black swan'.

Re: EU Voice

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Post by googlryas »

amadeuspagel wrote: post #57
lrem wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For the same reason not every US citizen is entitled to a .gov address?

.gov is intended to signify offical US government websites. .eu domains can be registered by anyone.

Then make a citizen.eu site or something like that and hand out addresses!

Re: EU Voice

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Post by junon »

johnywalks wrote: post #49
williamvds wrote: post #18

It's quite sensible really, why would you leave a method of disseminating official statements vulnerable to the whims of a private American corporation? Discussion still can and will be held on platforms not directly controlled by governments.

> whims of a private American corporation Exactly. Private corporations that adhere to US law and have demonstrated that they don't operate in good faith. Each country should control official channels of communication.

Not only that, but US digital law hasn't caught up to modernity. One can make the argument that European laws have, at least to a much greater extent.

Re: EU Voice

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Post by amelius »

williamvds wrote: post #18

It's quite sensible really, why would you leave a method of disseminating official statements vulnerable to the whims of a private American corporation? Discussion still can and will be held on platforms not directly controlled by governments.

> whims of a private American corporation

It's worse. Whims of one American individual.

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